#fedora-meeting-2: FESCO (2023-08-24)

Meeting summary

1. init process (zbyszek_, 17:04:19)
   
2. #3059 F39 incomplete changes: 100% complete deadline (zbyszek_, 17:05:18)
   
3. Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (zbyszek_, 17:05:42)
   1. Changes were pushed today. The Change is in progress. (zbyszek_, 17:07:23)
   
   
4. Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (zbyszek_, 17:07:30)
   1. This is still being worked out, but it's non-blocking and additive. (zbyszek_, 17:08:35)
   
   
5. Deprecating libuser and removing passwd package from Fedora (zbyszek_, 17:08:42)
   1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2233275#c1 (zbyszek_, 17:09:26)
   2. AGREED: Change is deferred to F40 (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek_, 17:12:10)
   
   
6. Allow Removal of tzdata (zbyszek_, 17:12:23)
   1. This isn't fully implemented yet, we'll revisit on the next meeting. (zbyszek_, 17:15:24)
   
   
7. LLVM 17 (zbyszek_, 17:15:41)
   1. Owners decided to move to rc3, and it's being built now. (zbyszek_, 17:18:14)
   
   
8. Flatpaks without Modules (zbyszek_, 17:18:27)
   1. https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11626 seems to be the blocker. (zbyszek_, 17:19:34)
   2. This is pretty much done... just a few small things being sorted. (zbyszek_, 17:19:59)
   
   
9. Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking test criteria (zbyszek_, 17:20:12)
   1. This is done except for a single PR to make it blocking in the compose config. (zbyszek_, 17:21:17)
   2. https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1195 (nirik, 17:21:56)
   3. https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1194 (Son_Goku, 17:22:12)
   4. https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1195 is about to be merged. (zbyszek_, 17:22:14)
   5. and also https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1194. (zbyszek_, 17:22:32)
   
   
10. RPM 4.19 (zbyszek_, 17:22:45)
    1. Beta was built 3 months ago. Bugs are being fixed and we're waiting for the final version. This is on track. (zbyszek_, 17:24:29)
    
    
11. Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39 (zbyszek_, 17:24:45)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175941#c1 (zbyszek_, 17:25:32)
    2. This seems stalled, but it would be OK to land late if the dependencies can be rebuilt. We'll revisit next week. (zbyszek_, 17:26:27)
    
    
12. SPDX License Phase 2 (zbyszek_, 17:26:42)
    1. This is a neverending task. The Change is in progress. (zbyszek_, 17:28:19)
    
    
13. LegacyXorgDriverRemoval (zbyszek_, 17:28:34)
    1. It seems no work has been done on this. (zbyszek_, 17:32:40)
    2. ACTION: ajax to look at the Change again. (zbyszek_, 17:33:42)
    
    
14. Python 3.12 (zbyszek_, 17:34:05)
    1. python3-3.12.0~rc1-1 is in F39 and most packages have been rebuilt. (zbyszek_, 17:36:16)
    
    
15. LibreOffice 7.6 (zbyszek_, 17:36:40)
    1. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2278778 (decathorpe, 17:37:39)
    2. This is in progress. Dependencies have been rebuilt in a side tag. (zbyszek_, 17:37:55)
    3. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2278778 (zbyszek_, 17:38:13)
    
    
16. Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server editions (zbyszek_, 17:38:31)
    1. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/279 (zbyszek_, 17:39:05)
    2. https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/2562 (zbyszek_, 17:39:10)
    3. This is actively being worked on. We'll revisit next week. (zbyszek_, 17:39:59)
    
    
17. No custom Qt theming for Fedora Workstation (zbyszek_, 17:40:16)
    1. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1184 (Son_Goku, 17:40:58)
    2. Builds have been done after the deadline, so a FE has been requested. (zbyszek_, 17:41:33)
    
    
18. Passkey authentication for centrally managed users (zbyszek_, 17:41:46)
    1. This is mostly implemented, but is blocked on selinux policy changes and possibly some udev rule changes. (zbyszek_, 17:46:39)
    
    
19. Bigger ESP (zbyszek_, 17:47:00)
    1. The size change has caused problems, but just reverting it might also cause problems. (zbyszek_, 17:49:39)
    2. Let's discuss this in the bug and revisit next week. (zbyszek_, 17:52:15)
    
    
20. Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (zbyszek_, 17:52:23)
    1. We'll revisit this next week. Owners plan to file a FE. (zbyszek_, 17:54:18)
    
    
21. Next week's chair (zbyszek_, 17:54:53)
    1. ACTION: Son_Goku will chair next meeting (zbyszek_, 17:55:30)
    
    
22. Open Floor (zbyszek_, 17:55:43)

Action items

1. ajax to look at the Change again.
2. Son_Goku will chair next meeting

Action items, by person

1. Son_Goku
   1. Son_Goku will chair next meeting

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1. zbyszek_ (105)
2. Son_Goku (52)
3. nirik (42)
4. decathorpe (19)
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