06:00:14 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n 06:00:15 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 4 06:00:14 2015 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:15 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:00:18 <pravins> #meetingname i18n 06:00:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:21 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call 06:00:25 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-02-04 06:00:29 <paragan> hi 06:00:31 <fujiwarat> hi 06:00:41 <pravins> hi paragan fujiwarat :) 06:00:45 <epico> hi 06:00:50 <tagoh_> hi 06:01:09 <shilpa> hi 06:01:21 <anish_> Hi 06:01:32 <pravins> hi epico tagoh_ shilpa anish_ :) 06:01:48 <pravins> i think Juhp will be not available today. 06:02:01 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:02:01 <pravins> #info 2015-02-10 Branch Fedora 22 from Rawhide 06:02:01 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24 Alpha Freeze 06:02:02 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24 Software String Freeze 06:02:02 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) 06:02:03 <pravins> #info 2015-02-24 Bodhi activation point 06:02:05 <pravins> #info 2015-03-10 Alpha Release 06:02:22 <pravins> Thank you all for helping last Wednesday for cleaning up wiki. 06:03:05 <pravins> Alpha freeze just 3 weeks away. 06:03:50 <pravins> tagoh_: when do we need to start docs beat? 06:04:34 <pravins> they have schedule separately https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-devel-tasks.html 06:05:42 <tagoh_> pravins: usually we need to finish before beta 06:05:55 <pravins> that was wrong link, correct is https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-docs-tasks.html 06:06:35 <pravins> May be we can target it post Alpha freeze. 06:07:18 <tagoh_> no slips at this moment but that schedule seems not updated when it happened. so better finish off early 06:08:13 <pravins> tagoh_: sure. Lets create ticket and start tracking it from next meeting. 06:08:24 <tagoh_> okay. 06:08:33 <pravins> thank you tagoh_ 06:08:53 <pravins> #info Tracking docs from next meeting. 06:08:59 <pravins> #topic Outstanding topic 06:09:03 <pravins> #info #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (i18n@lists.fedoraproject.org) 06:09:03 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/36 06:09:11 <pravins> anish__: any chance talking with whot? 06:09:27 <pravins> paragan: did you got chance to cleanup xkb layouts further? 06:10:02 <anish__> pravins, sorry could not sent an email but i will send it today itself 06:10:17 <paragan> pravins, sorry, am busy with many existing package cleanups/updates. will try to finish it this weekend 06:10:31 <pravins> anish__: great. should i add it to action item? 06:10:41 <pravins> paragan: sure. thanks. 06:10:43 <anish__> pravins, sure 06:11:18 <pravins> #action anish__ to talk with whot for blacklisting xkb layouts. 06:11:52 <pravins> #action paragan to cleanup xkb layout on wiki. 06:12:03 <pravins> #topic Outstanding task 06:12:03 <pravins> #info #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day (tagoh) 06:12:03 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/42 06:12:41 <pravins> tagoh_: can we plan any date now for test day? 06:13:17 <tagoh_> any changes we better wait for beta or so? 06:14:01 <tagoh_> otherwise we could tentatively set a date around pre-beta 06:14:14 <pravins> good point. 06:14:54 <pravins> in present scenario i hope most of our changes get added into Alpha. 06:15:08 <pravins> i think pre-beta looks good. 06:15:18 <pravins> 2015-04-14 Beta Release 06:15:25 <pravins> it will give more chances for fixing bugs. 06:15:49 <pravins> I will write article to Fedora Magazine for inviting testers for i18n test day. 06:16:14 <pravins> though my one article pending on Fedora 21 already :( 06:17:12 <pravins> how do you feel to have using one Wed. meeting slot on improving and adding new test cases? 06:17:26 <tagoh_> still no portal so not sure which slots are available but anaconda team filed a ticket already it seems. so we could do 06:17:59 <tagoh_> pravins: sure if that helps. 06:18:51 <tagoh_> just a suggestion for date, how about 12th or r19th March? 06:19:01 <pravins> lets try and see how it goes. We can invite QE as well. 06:19:56 <paragan> good to have test day either just before beta to after beta release 06:20:32 <pravins> paragan: good point. 06:20:49 <pravins> tagoh_: Beta freeze happening on "2015-03-31" So may be just after that? 06:22:46 <tagoh_> assuming the schedule will slip so that may works though, in theory better before freeze so that we could have a chance to fix something for beta... 06:23:35 <pravins> agree. 06:23:50 <pravins> tagoh_: 19th march looks good. 06:24:02 <paragan> 19th sounds good then 06:24:28 <pravins> #agreed 19th march date for i18n test day. 06:24:36 <pravins> lets move on 06:24:45 <pravins> #topic New topics 06:24:45 <pravins> #info #40: Fedora 22 planning (pravins) 06:24:45 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40 06:24:53 <pravins> All our changes are in Accepted state now., 06:25:12 <pravins> Alpha freeze is just 3 weeks away, so its now time to make sure all changes get 100% complete for it. 06:25:48 <pravins> For Glibc_Unicode_7 change, i had discussion with siddhesh. He is bit busy with few stuff presently. So he mostly work on it next to next week. 06:25:56 <pravins> same time also discussing on libc-alpha same. 06:26:46 <pravins> anish__: paragan any issues with your proposed changes for completing before Alpha release? 06:27:35 <pravins> Lohit2_Odia_Telug i did upstream release of Odia last week, Presently working with shilpa on Telugu. Hoping it will get complete in couple of weeks. 06:28:24 <pravins> lets move on.. 06:28:25 <pravins> #info #41: Need to check whether any F22 proposed change affect i18n (pravins) 06:28:25 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/41 06:28:25 <pravins> We gone through most of the changes proposed for F22 already. 06:28:29 <pravins> Final list is available AT 06:28:32 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:ChangeAcceptedF22 06:28:38 <pravins> At least i did not found any particular which we should track. So if there is nothing i think we can close this ticket today. 06:28:57 <paragan> pravins, I have proposed dnf-langpacks for cli commands only which is 100% complete as of now 06:29:07 <pravins> paragan: thats great !! 06:29:37 <paragan> enhancements to it like automatic pickup of langpacks on package updates is pending to dnf api implementation by dnf developers 06:29:38 <pravins> #info Changes/DnfLangpacksPlugin feature is 100% complete. 06:29:42 <paragan> which may take time 06:29:47 <pravins> sure. 06:29:59 <anish__> pravins, not at moment need to write documentation as suggested by upstream 06:30:05 <pravins> thank you for an update paragan :) 06:30:19 <pravins> anish__: sure. 06:32:08 * pravins closed #https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/41 06:32:25 <pravins> lets move to new topic 06:32:25 <pravins> #info #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins) 06:32:25 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 06:32:45 <pravins> Basically its gathering of Fedora contributors for completing specific activity. OSAS team support for budget. Will need approval from OSAS and FPL. 06:33:01 <pravins> Two FAD happened recently 06:33:01 <pravins> 1. Ambassadors : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014 06:33:20 <pravins> 2. Design : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_DesignTeam_2014 06:34:01 <anish__> would be nice if we can have i18n FAD 06:35:23 <pravins> I think we can have this in Japan, since most of the members are there already. 06:35:33 <pravins> Also we can use Red Hat facility there. 06:36:30 <pravins> it is in very rough stage presently. lets have further discussion on same and discuss more in next meeting. 06:37:56 <pravins> 3 important things. 06:37:59 <pravins> 1. Should we have it. 06:38:08 <pravins> 2. Deciding Date and Venue 06:38:15 <pravins> 3. Getting approval for budget 06:38:26 <pravins> lets think and discuss on this in next meeting. 06:38:43 <pravins> almost done with discussing with all topics. 06:38:47 <pravins> #topic Open Floor 06:39:01 <anish__> if we want to do it we need to do it asap 06:39:22 <anish__> because if we plan to do it in April 06:39:28 <anish__> we dont have that time in our hand 06:40:00 <anish__> getting approvals take bit of time (in my personal experience) 06:40:37 <pravins> anish__: agree. 06:40:47 <anish__> probably we should sent our proposal to OSAS and FPL 06:41:24 <pravins> anish__: lets discuss further in next meeting. 06:41:34 <anish__> okay thanks 06:42:08 <pravins> any other topic for day including bug? 06:44:10 <pravins> lets close meeting in couple of minute. 06:45:18 <pravins> thank you all for nice meeting. 06:45:21 <pravins> #endmeeting