2024-04-29 08:00:09 <@paragan:matrix.org> !startmeeting i18n 2024-04-29 08:00:12 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-04-29 08:00:09 UTC 2024-04-29 08:00:12 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'i18n' 2024-04-29 08:00:14 <@paragan:matrix.org> !meetingname i18n 2024-04-29 08:00:22 <@paragan:matrix.org> !topic agenda and roll call 2024-04-29 08:00:32 <@paragan:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2024-04-29 2024-04-29 08:01:16 <@kanru:wara.tw> Hi 2024-04-29 08:01:22 <@twinkle28:fedora.im> Hi 2024-04-29 08:01:36 <@mfabian:matrix.org> Hi 2024-04-29 08:01:36 <@matiwari:fedora.im> Hi 2024-04-29 08:02:16 <@paragan:matrix.org> Hi all 2024-04-29 08:02:25 <@paragan:matrix.org> Let's start today's meeting 2024-04-29 08:02:30 <@juhp:matrix.org> hi 2024-04-29 08:02:41 <@paragan:matrix.org> as decided we will first go through issues 2024-04-29 08:02:49 <@paragan:matrix.org> !topic Issues 2024-04-29 08:03:15 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info #182: Tracker for Fedora 40 Changes (pnemade) 2024-04-29 08:03:34 <@paragan:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/182 2024-04-29 08:04:00 <@paragan:matrix.org> For this ticket only release notes are pending for our Changes 2024-04-29 08:04:15 <@paragan:matrix.org> do we need to keep tracking release notes and keep this ticket open? 2024-04-29 08:04:33 <@paragan:matrix.org> or we will keep checking release notes status offline and close this ticket now 2024-04-29 08:05:31 <@juhp:matrix.org> I don't think any relnote needed for ibus-anthy - not sure about ibus-1.5.30 2024-04-29 08:05:49 <@juhp:matrix.org> still rc3 2024-04-29 08:06:26 <@juhp:matrix.org> Not sure it is worth worrying about? 2024-04-29 08:06:39 <@paragan:matrix.org> Ok then, I will close this ticket 2024-04-29 08:06:42 <@paragan:matrix.org> Thanks 2024-04-29 08:07:39 <@sshil:fedora.im> hi 2024-04-29 08:08:05 <@paragan:matrix.org> Let's move to next ticket 2024-04-29 08:08:14 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info #183: Fedora 38 Bug triaging (pnemade) 2024-04-29 08:08:20 <@paragan:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/183 2024-04-29 08:09:38 <@paragan:matrix.org> we still have 26 bugs in this list 2024-04-29 08:12:17 <@paragan:matrix.org> hopefully we will triage some more soon 2024-04-29 08:12:52 <@paragan:matrix.org> anything else to discuss for this ticket? 2024-04-29 08:13:40 <@paragan:matrix.org> if nothing then let's move to next ticket 2024-04-29 08:13:42 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info #185: Evaluate if we can have ibus-chewing as default IME for Taiwan (pwu) 2024-04-29 08:13:52 <@paragan:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/185 2024-04-29 08:14:22 <@paragan:matrix.org> any updates to share for this ticket here? 2024-04-29 08:16:44 <@kanru:wara.tw> There's some feedback comments in the discussion thread. I don't see any objections. 2024-04-29 08:18:49 <@paragan:matrix.org> Should we then make the ibus-chewing as default for Taiwan then by submitting F41 Change? 2024-04-29 08:19:16 <@kanru:wara.tw> I'm not sure what's next. Any suggestions? 2024-04-29 08:20:17 <@paragan:matrix.org> if the response is positive then you can submit F41 Change 2024-04-29 08:20:22 <@juhp:matrix.org> Do you want to draft the Change proposal? 2024-04-29 08:21:03 <@kanru:wara.tw> Yeah, sounds good. I can do that. 2024-04-29 08:21:28 <@juhp:matrix.org> Good 2024-04-29 08:22:32 <@juhp:matrix.org> I feel it would not hurt to send out a "heads-up" mail to some fedora lists too :) 2024-04-29 08:23:05 <@juhp:matrix.org> I think your post talked about a "test day"? 2024-04-29 08:23:37 <@juhp:matrix.org> Well "heads-up" is wrong - but I mean an email discussion too 2024-04-29 08:25:05 <@kanru:wara.tw> What should be the email list? I recently learned there's a Taiwan community list though the mail volume is sparse. 2024-04-29 08:25:21 <@juhp:matrix.org> I generally find pre-announcing these things early, tends to make them less ~~controversial~~surprising - not that I am saying it is 2024-04-29 08:25:36 <@juhp:matrix.org> Sure that would be a good candidate too 2024-04-29 08:26:02 <@juhp:matrix.org> There is also i18n list and trans list, maybe devel list or desktop too 2024-04-29 08:26:54 <@juhp:matrix.org> You could do both in parallel I think 2024-04-29 08:27:25 <@kanru:wara.tw> Ok, I'll draft a proposal, and send a "intend to" mail to those lists to direct more discussion to the thread. 2024-04-29 08:27:38 <@juhp:matrix.org> Sounds good 2024-04-29 08:28:32 <@paragan:matrix.org> Thanks 2024-04-29 08:29:56 <@paragan:matrix.org> moving to next ticket 2024-04-29 08:30:03 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info #186: Tool to install i18n support (petersen) 2024-04-29 08:30:09 <@paragan:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/186 2024-04-29 08:30:19 <@paragan:matrix.org> any updates on this ticket? 2024-04-29 08:31:58 <@juhp:matrix.org> No.... perhaps we should drop it for now, until more clarity 2024-04-29 08:32:37 <@paragan:matrix.org> Okay thanks 2024-04-29 08:32:53 <@juhp:matrix.org> Well the CJK priority is a real problem though 2024-04-29 08:33:21 <@juhp:matrix.org> So perhaps we could reduce the problem to that 2024-04-29 08:33:32 <@juhp:matrix.org> So perhaps we could reduce the problem scope to that 2024-04-29 08:34:34 <@juhp:matrix.org> Well the CJK font priority is a real problem though 2024-04-29 08:34:47 <@juhp:matrix.org> Well the CJK relative font priority is a real problem though 2024-04-29 08:35:33 <@paragan:matrix.org> Jens Petersen: Can you update the ticket with this information? 2024-04-29 08:35:42 <@juhp:matrix.org> Yeah 2024-04-29 08:35:48 <@paragan:matrix.org> Thanks 2024-04-29 08:37:06 <@paragan:matrix.org> moving to next ticket 2024-04-29 08:37:07 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info #187: proposal to start meeting one hour earlier (petersen) 2024-04-29 08:37:14 <@paragan:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/187 2024-04-29 08:37:59 <@paragan:matrix.org> We got this proposal to start meeting one hour early 2024-04-29 08:38:24 <@paragan:matrix.org> any objections/concerns? 2024-04-29 08:38:53 <@paragan:matrix.org> Should we move from 0800 UTC to 0700 UTC? 2024-04-29 08:40:16 <@juhp:matrix.org> I think it mainly affects mfabian 2024-04-29 08:41:12 <@juhp:matrix.org> Well and bitten when they are here 2024-04-29 08:41:35 <@mfabian:matrix.org> Fine with me. 2024-04-29 08:42:17 <@paragan:matrix.org> good 2024-04-29 08:43:07 <@paragan:matrix.org> I assume no concerns mean we are good to move to 0700 UTC 2024-04-29 08:44:25 <@paragan:matrix.org> #info from next meeting we are changing this meeting time to 0700 UTC 2024-04-29 08:45:00 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info from next meeting we are changing this meeting time to 0700 UTC 2024-04-29 08:45:35 <@paragan:matrix.org> moving to next topic 2024-04-29 08:45:42 <@paragan:matrix.org> !topic Upcoming schedule 2024-04-29 08:45:51 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info Tue 2024-05-21 Fedora Linux 38 EOL auto closure 2024-04-29 08:46:00 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info Wed 2024-06-19 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring infrastructure changes) 2024-04-29 08:46:11 <@paragan:matrix.org> !info Tue 2024-06-25 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (Changes requiring mass rebuild) 2024-04-29 08:46:50 <@paragan:matrix.org> As you know Last week we saw F40 released 2024-04-29 08:47:08 <@paragan:matrix.org> now there will be good amount of time to submit Change proposals for F41 2024-04-29 08:47:25 <@paragan:matrix.org> anything to discuss here? 2024-04-29 08:48:18 <@paragan:matrix.org> I guess nothing to discuss, let's move 2024-04-29 08:48:25 <@paragan:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor 2024-04-29 08:49:27 <@paragan:matrix.org> anyone around to chair next meeting on 13th May? 2024-04-29 08:49:46 <@paragan:matrix.org> I will not be available on 13th May 2024-04-29 08:51:02 <@paragan:matrix.org> if no one is available to chair then let's cancel next meeting and meet on 27th May meeting 2024-04-29 08:51:27 <@paragan:matrix.org> also I think there are no tickets that need discussion by next meeting 2024-04-29 08:52:16 <@juhp:matrix.org> Okay sounds reasonable 2024-04-29 08:52:41 <@juhp:matrix.org> Or we could wait too - we can probably find someone 2024-04-29 08:52:58 <@paragan:matrix.org> Okay thanks 2024-04-29 08:53:04 <@paragan:matrix.org> anything else to discuss here? 2024-04-29 08:53:05 <@juhp:matrix.org> Kanru may have an update 2024-04-29 08:53:14 <@paragan:matrix.org> Sure 2024-04-29 08:54:02 <@juhp:matrix.org> I think fujiwara is also considering a Vietnamese ime change - though dunno why he plans to submit 2024-04-29 08:54:15 <@juhp:matrix.org> sorry _when_ 2024-04-29 08:54:23 <@juhp:matrix.org> I think fujiwara is also considering a Vietnamese ime change - though dunno when he plans to submit 2024-04-29 08:55:19 <@juhp:matrix.org> It would be good to get both such Changes ready early to get as much testing as possible 2024-04-29 08:56:53 <@juhp:matrix.org> I think fujiwara is also considering a Vietnamese ime change - though dunno _when_ he plans to submit 2024-04-29 08:57:49 <@paragan:matrix.org> let's stop here 2024-04-29 08:57:56 <@paragan:matrix.org> Thank you for joining this meeting 2024-04-29 08:58:04 <@paragan:matrix.org> !endmeeting