15:01:02 <rdieter> #startmeeting kde-sig 15:01:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 4 15:01:02 2017 UTC. The chair is rdieter. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'kde-sig' 15:01:05 <rdieter> #topic roll call 15:01:14 <rdieter> hi all, friendly kde-sig meeting, who's present today? 15:01:25 <pino|work> o/ 15:01:57 <than> present 15:01:58 <tosky> o/ 15:02:07 <lupinix> hi :) 15:02:21 <rdieter> #info rdieter pino|work than tosky lupinix present 15:02:23 <rdieter> hi 15:02:27 <rdieter> #chair pino|work than tosky lupinix 15:02:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: lupinix pino|work rdieter than tosky 15:05:06 * heliocastro here 15:05:34 <rdieter> #info heliocastro present 15:05:36 <rdieter> #chair heliocastro 15:05:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: heliocastro lupinix pino|work rdieter than tosky 15:05:39 <rdieter> #topic agenda 15:05:45 <rdieter> hi all, what to discuss today? 15:05:55 <rdieter> I can give usual "what's rex been up to this week" update 15:06:28 <tosky> I can remind about next deadlines upstream 15:07:18 <rdieter> ok 15:07:27 <rdieter> let's get started then 15:07:37 <rdieter> #topic upstream deadlines (tosky) 15:08:07 <tosky> Frameworks 5.33 is on the way (I think rdieter will update on it); the rc1 was tagged, release this Saturday 15:08:29 <rdieter> rc1 of what? plasma? kde-apps? 15:08:40 <tosky> Frameworks 15:08:42 <tosky> :) 15:09:02 <rdieter> oh, ok 15:09:17 <tosky> KDE Applications 17.04 beta was tagged few days ago, and the RC is going to be tagged in 2 days 15:09:51 <tosky> draft release notes as usual at https://community.kde.org/Applications/17.04_Release_Notes 15:10:13 <tosky> apart from the bigger releases, calligra 3.0.1 is expected soon, as well as konversation 1.7 15:10:21 <tosky> and I think it's all 15:10:43 <rdieter> ok, thanks, any other comments? 15:11:02 <lupinix> nothing else here 15:12:31 <rdieter> moving on... 15:12:38 <rdieter> #topic recent updates (rdieter) 15:13:01 <rdieter> so f26-alpha is happening finally, so freeze is lifted 15:13:11 <rdieter> submitted plasma-5.9.4 for f26 -testing 15:13:21 <rdieter> doing kf5-5.33.0 builds for rawhide now 15:13:35 <rdieter> once done, I'll work on f25/f24/epel7 builds 15:13:42 <rdieter> (oh, +f26) 15:14:32 <rdieter> and got qt-5.8 imported/built for rawhide over the span of last week too. Took longer than I would've liked 15:15:03 <rdieter> and, in my spare time, working on calligra-3.0 packaging 15:15:18 <pino|work> before or after kexi? 15:15:23 <rdieter> todo: kexi-3.0 is now released separately, and needs new packaging too 15:15:45 <rdieter> pino|work: they'll need to (eventually) go together, but baby steps 15:15:50 <pino|work> sure sure 15:16:03 <mbriza> hello 15:16:08 <rdieter> ideally, want those ready in time for f26, so any help there (esp for kexi) would be greatly appreciated 15:16:08 <mbriza> thanks for updating qgnomeplatform! 15:16:15 <rdieter> #info mbriza present 15:16:16 <rdieter> hi 15:16:17 <pino|work> i actually did the kexi packaging for debian, but blocked because of the "i need breeze.rcc" to build 15:16:27 <pino|work> $#@! 15:16:42 <rdieter> pino|work: oh right, silliness. 15:17:05 <pino|work> otherwise it's pretty straightforward 15:17:26 <pino|work> i guess kdb, kproperty, kreport, and kdiagram are done already 15:17:27 <rdieter> per what mbriza mentioned, one of the qt-5.8 ftbfs issues was qgnomeplatform, which had been fixed upstream recently, so updated that to a fresh snapshot 15:17:28 <pino|work> ? 15:17:49 <rdieter> pino|work: I think those need doing too (not done yet) 15:17:54 <rdieter> at least some 15:18:13 <rdieter> we have kdiagram at least 15:18:49 <pino|work> calligra & kmymoney use/will use it 15:19:02 <rdieter> yay 15:19:44 <pino|work> you need all but kdiagram for kexi, and all but kdb for calligra 15:19:49 <rdieter> and lastly, apper-pk-session crasher was (finally) fixed upstream, fyi 15:19:50 * pino|work stops the OT 15:20:24 <rdieter> I think that's all 15:21:58 <rdieter> moving on... 15:22:08 <rdieter> oh, another topic I forgot to mention... 15:22:12 <rdieter> #topic akademy 15:22:26 <rdieter> heliocastro poked me before meeting to ask about akademy attendance this year 15:22:43 <rdieter> was wondering about everyone else here too 15:23:34 <rdieter> my intentions are to attend and submit a talk (something about distro integration, upstream/downstream collaboration probably) 15:24:04 <rdieter> https://akademy.kde.org/2017 Akademy 2017 - Almería, Spain - 22nd - 27th July 15:24:34 <mbriza> i'm probably not coming and as far as i know, jgrulich won't come either 15:25:21 <rdieter> mbriza: ok thanks 15:25:24 <mbriza> i'm not that involved in kde anymore and Jan doesn't have the time 15:25:34 <rdieter> anyone else have plans one way or the other? 15:26:17 <tosky> probably attend 15:26:26 <rdieter> (either way, at least think on it, no rush right this minute) 15:26:37 <Kevin_Kofler> I am not planning to attend this year. 15:27:24 * lupinix neither 15:27:42 <lupinix> conflicts with some university stuff :( 15:28:29 <mbriza> btw for a little bit of gossip, it conflicts with jgrulich's honeymoon :) 15:28:30 <rdieter> tis ok, I've ended up missing the last few years too, generally for bad reasons (procrastination mostly) 15:28:45 <rdieter> mbriza: woo! 15:28:59 <Kevin_Kofler> A conference in July at the Mediterranean, I wonder how many people will actually attending the talks. ;-) 15:29:09 <Kevin_Kofler> *attend 15:29:22 <lupinix> well just move talks to beach :P 15:29:38 <tosky> it's not the first time, though (Malaga 2005) 15:30:02 <Kevin_Kofler> There was also one at A Coruña. 15:30:06 <tosky> (Bilbao was warm enough, even if on the Ocean) 15:30:12 <tosky> that's the cold part of Spain 15:30:21 <tosky> max 22, min 12, rainy and windy 15:31:21 <rdieter> alright, no more talk of beaches :) 15:31:26 <rdieter> #topic open discussion 15:31:33 <rdieter> anything else to discuss or mention today? 15:32:26 <rdieter> fwiw, after getting kf5-5.33 builds going, I hope to have time to install f26-alpha 15:34:45 <rdieter> oh, anyone have preference for which item should get priority for f25: kf5-5.33.0 or plasma-5.9.4 ? 15:35:01 <rdieter> offhand, I will likely do kf5-5.33 first, unless there's a consensus otherwise? 15:35:16 <pino|work> seems legit 15:35:21 <lupinix> +1 15:37:08 <Kevin_Kofler> Hmmm, Plasma is still stuck at 5.8, I hope prioritizing KF5 won't mean the Plasma upgrade moves to the day when pigs fly… 15:37:23 <heliocastro> Kevin_Kofler: Just to inform, we did 3 times in July at ocean, and ended very well :-) 15:37:35 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: while you're here, what's your opinion/plans wrt qtwebengine-5.8 for f26/f25 ? ready to send to -testing soon? 15:37:57 <tosky> the 5.8-over-qt5.7? 15:38:04 <rdieter> tosky: yes 15:38:10 <tosky> I'm still using it and kmail and akregator didn't explode 15:38:23 <lupinix> no explosions with qupzilla too 15:38:35 <tosky> I would say to send push it for testing 15:38:44 <lupinix> +1 15:38:54 <rdieter> oh, nevermind, I need to file a blocker bug for that. one remaining important issue: anything that BuildRequires: qt5-qtwebengine-devel fails 15:39:06 <lupinix> why fail? 15:39:21 <rdieter> it's *Config.cmake files assumes Qt-5.8 is present 15:39:28 <lupinix> :( 15:39:58 <tosky> uh, is it possible fake the exposed version to 5.7~really5.8 or something like that? 15:40:00 <Kevin_Kofler> Ah right, I looked into that, but I did not find the offending snippet, I think the version lock comes from qtbase. 15:40:01 <rdieter> A quick-n-dirty patch of changing the version fixes it 15:40:20 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: lemme get the snippet , sec 15:40:21 <Kevin_Kofler> (some template in there) 15:40:41 <rdieter> in /usr/lib64/cmake/Qt5WebEngineCore/Qt5WebEngineCoreConfig.cmake 15:40:46 <Kevin_Kofler> There's a snippet in the generated *Config.cmake, but I could not find the corresponding source, I think it comes from templates in QtBase. 15:41:14 <rdieter> find_package(Qt5${_module_dep} 5.8.0 ... 15:41:24 <x3mboy> ! 15:41:25 <Kevin_Kofler> We could hack the installed file at the end of %install, but ewww… 15:41:28 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: could be templated 15:41:36 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: that's what I had in mind, yeah 15:41:52 <rdieter> x3mboy: go ahead 15:42:14 <x3mboy> Just to remember you about Talking Points. I sent you an email to the ML about it 15:42:28 <rdieter> I recall seeing the post, but no followups :( 15:43:23 <Kevin_Kofler> rdieter: FYI: "Building qt5-qtwebengine-freeworld-5.8.0-1.fc27 for rawhide-free" – hopefully this goes through, we'll need the -freeworld ready when we do the updates for F2*, they should go out together. 15:43:42 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: +1 15:43:47 <Kevin_Kofler> I wasn't able to do this earlier because the Rawhide composes were stuck. 15:45:50 <x3mboy> I will reping by ML 15:46:28 <rdieter> .bug 1438877 15:46:28 <zodbot> rdieter: Bug 1438877 – Qt5WebEngineCoreConfig.cmake hard-codes references to Qt 5.8.0 dependencies - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1438877 15:46:30 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: fyi ^^ 15:47:04 <rdieter> x3mboy: thanks, I'll try to followup to encourage others that this would be nice (and easy) way to contribute 15:48:35 <rdieter> anyting else before I close today's meeting? 15:48:50 <x3mboy> rdieter: +1 15:48:53 <x3mboy> eof 15:49:15 <lupinix> nothing else here 15:49:48 <rdieter> ok, thanks everyone! 15:49:50 <rdieter> #endmeeting