21:00:26 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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21:00:32 <stickster> #topic Roll call
21:00:37 <stickster> .hello pfrields
21:00:38 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
21:00:40 <FranciscoD_> .hello ankursinha
21:00:41 <zodbot> FranciscoD_: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
21:00:42 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:00:44 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'ryan lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:00:56 <ryanlerch> FranciscoD_: stickster morning!
21:01:04 <stickster> we'll give until :03 for some more participants before we get started :-)
21:01:04 <FranciscoD_> evening :D
21:01:10 <ryanlerch> thanks for both being here regularly!
21:01:10 * stickster must leave by top of the hour
21:01:15 <decause> .hello
21:01:16 <zodbot> decause: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
21:01:21 <decause> .hello decause
21:01:22 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
21:01:25 <stickster> ryanlerch: +1!
21:01:33 <ryanlerch> hi decause! thanks to you too!
21:01:38 <decause> :)
21:01:56 * decause has more than just opinions for the magazine this time around ;)
21:02:05 <cydrobolt> hello stickster
21:02:07 <cydrobolt> .hello cydrobolt
21:02:08 <zodbot> cydrobolt: cydrobolt 'Chaoyi Zha' <summermontreal@gmail.com>
21:02:09 <cydrobolt> hello all
21:02:13 * decause waves
21:02:24 * FranciscoD_ continues the wave
21:03:00 <stickster> #chair FranciscoD_ ryanlerch decause cydrobolt
21:03:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD_ cydrobolt decause ryanlerch stickster
21:03:07 * cydrobolt waves
21:03:08 <stickster> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Editorial_meetings -- Agenda
21:03:16 <stickster> #topic Retrospective of last week
21:03:25 <stickster> ryanlerch: would you care to take this one? I'm finishing an AI from last week ;-)
21:03:46 <FranciscoD_> AI? Skynet?
21:03:48 <FranciscoD_> already?
21:03:51 <FranciscoD_> it's too soon!
21:04:35 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
21:04:36 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
21:04:58 <ryanlerch> This week, we just pubished one article -- the monitoring upstream articles post
21:05:23 <ryanlerch> but, we do have a range of new ones in the works, so that is awesome
21:05:25 <stickster> ryanlerch: Did we miss something from last agenda?
21:05:43 <stickster> I checked earlier in the week but I think I got waylaid and didn't finish following up :-(
21:06:04 <ryanlerch> the systemd one was harder than I tyhought -- so i missed the deadline on that one
21:06:26 <ryanlerch> last month was still an awesome month though --
21:06:31 <ryanlerch> Once again, this month goes down in history as the 2nd Best month ever
21:06:32 <ryanlerch> with 175,114 pageviews, beating the previous month by 12,323 views.
21:06:35 <ryanlerch> The best month ever is still May 2015 with 199,513 Pageviews.
21:06:51 <FranciscoD_> the beta post probably kept us up? :)
21:06:58 <ryanlerch> that is part of the monthly report -- check the list for more info
21:07:04 <stickster> I would think so
21:07:06 * FranciscoD_ read it but forgot
21:07:14 <ryanlerch> FranciscoD_: actaully, the powerline article did better than the beta post...
21:07:20 <stickster> ryanlerch: Great job on the monthly report. Is that automated/automatable in some way?
21:07:28 <FranciscoD_> ah, powerline++
21:07:28 <ryanlerch> # Top Posts #
21:07:30 <ryanlerch> 1.Add power to your terminal with powerline by Paul Frields  [20,843]
21:07:32 <ryanlerch> 2. Fedora 23 Beta Released!  [14,834]
21:08:20 <ryanlerch> stickster: maybe -- but it only takes a few mintes to put together, so i am happy to do it manually for now :)
21:08:27 <FranciscoD_> so we do have a command line loving audience then
21:08:29 <FranciscoD_> good to know
21:08:55 <stickster> ryanlerch: 20K+ views!!! almost to my level III badge
21:08:57 <FranciscoD_> maybe I could write some posts with vim plug-ins and things
21:09:04 <decause> stickster++
21:09:23 <stickster> FranciscoD_: Not a bad idea at all! get your pitch in... ;-)
21:09:26 * roshi is here
21:09:36 <FranciscoD_> stickster: one per week, this week is pelican week :P
21:09:45 <roshi> sorry - was reading pitches and drafts and got distracted by responding to a comment on my fpaste post
21:10:08 <stickster> FranciscoD_: right on
21:10:23 <stickster> ryanlerch: Anything more on retrospective? Should we move on?
21:10:51 * decause doesn't have things on that
21:11:02 <jflory7> FranciscoD: On that topic, I know that article seemed different to me because it was more of a user-experience kind of article.
21:11:03 <ryanlerch> stickster: happy to procceed :)
21:11:11 <stickster> #topic Pitch votes
21:11:26 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&orderby=date&order=asc
21:11:35 <ryanlerch> stickster: i think you already have all 3 badges :)
21:12:00 <stickster> #idea Zanata / Fedora G11n survey
21:12:31 <stickster> I think I saw mail from Pravin on this today but I haven't had time to react to it
21:12:56 * mailga is around
21:12:59 <stickster> We voted this down last week, but it's still out there, and I think Pravin is looking for alternatives
21:13:02 <stickster> #chair mailga
21:13:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD_ cydrobolt decause mailga ryanlerch stickster
21:13:06 <FranciscoD_> I think we'd said that it's better for the community site, but since we don't have an ETA on that ...
21:13:27 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10117&preview=true
21:14:10 <ryanlerch> yeah, still trying to figure out where it is at -- it is pretty much ready to go on my end -- we just need to get a few more things in line
21:14:38 <roshi> -1 not sure the general userbase would want to read it
21:14:38 <stickster> ryanlerch: What needs to be in line at this point?
21:15:19 * stickster realizes this is a detour from pitch votes but we need to know more about ETA
21:15:22 <ryanlerch> i need to talk to croberts -- the theme is done, so from my point of view its done -- just need to get hold of chris
21:15:33 <ryanlerch> will shoot another email today
21:15:58 <stickster> ryanlerch: copy me and puiterwijk on that if you don't mind
21:16:06 <ryanlerch> stickster: roger!
21:16:12 <stickster> bonzer
21:16:27 * roshi hasn't seen chris around lately...
21:17:10 <stickster> roshi: Me neither, but he has been in #fedora-mktg a couple times in the last week and said he would try to help if he got some email
21:17:12 * mailga knows Chris was sick some days ago.
21:17:14 <stickster> *nod
21:17:52 <decause> ryanlerch: is it on openshift?
21:18:01 <puiterwijk> decause: it's in the Fedora openstack instance
21:18:10 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: if you need access or help, just let me know
21:18:16 <decause> puiterwijk: kk
21:18:23 <decause> puiterwijk: can haz access too plz?
21:18:41 <decause> puiterwijk: is it key auth?
21:18:42 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: is the DNS and stuff all done and ready?
21:18:43 <puiterwijk> decause: please ping me later tonight?
21:18:56 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: as far as I know, dns and instance all exist and are setup.
21:18:57 <stickster> I think puiterwijk sent me some info on access too, but I haven't had a free cycle to try it yet
21:18:58 <decause> puiterwijk: can do, np
21:19:19 <stickster> neato burrito, more peoples
21:19:42 <stickster> #info decause, ryanlerch, stickster should be able to figure out something even if chris is unavailable
21:19:42 <roshi> I can also help get it up, monitor and prune whatever playbooks we have
21:19:45 <puiterwijk> Anymore info needed on this instance at this point?
21:19:46 <stickster> #undo
21:19:46 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by stickster at 21:19:42 : decause, ryanlerch, stickster should be able to figure out something even if chris is unavailable
21:19:50 <stickster> #info decause, ryanlerch, stickster, and roshi should be able to figure out something even if chris is unavailable
21:19:59 <stickster> :-)
21:20:09 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: what is the URL?
21:20:09 <decause> #action decause ping puiterwijk for access to community blog instance
21:20:21 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: one second
21:20:23 * roshi has been getting more into the infra stuff (at least paying attention to it :p)
21:20:28 <stickster> puiterwijk:  thank you for the quick popup help!
21:20:36 <decause> puiterwijk++
21:20:37 <linuxmodder> same here
21:20:39 <decause> def def def
21:20:50 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: should have communityblog.fedorainfracloud.org
21:20:55 <FranciscoD_> fancy!
21:20:55 <linuxmodder> still swimming in it tho (effect of  {dayjob}
21:21:04 <puiterwijk> But depending on how far the instance has bee nsetup it might or might not have an http server running
21:21:14 <stickster> OK, let's get back to agenda now that we have some people looking at it
21:21:27 <stickster> How do we resolve the G11n/Zanata post?
21:22:04 <decause> stickster: perhaps we have a queue for contributor/dev posts that we keep also?
21:22:08 <decause> a tag we use perhaps?
21:22:17 <FranciscoD_> I think the post is time sensitive?
21:22:24 <ryanlerch> i say, lets just put it on the magazine for now
21:22:31 * FranciscoD_ re-reads pravins post
21:22:45 <decause> ryanlerch: we /are/ low on articles this week afterall
21:22:47 <stickster> ryanlerch: OK, it's not nearly ready for posting and will need actual writing
21:23:02 <roshi> yeah
21:23:03 <ryanlerch> we periodically have put stuff like this up in the past, and its only one post
21:23:26 * stickster is not opposed since G11n want to go live with survey, and have no place else to go
21:23:46 <ryanlerch> yeah, +1 for me
21:24:02 <stickster> Who will rewrite?
21:24:49 <ryanlerch> stickster: i can talk to luke today -- he will write it
21:24:59 <stickster> ryanlerch: OK, let's go for it
21:25:01 <ryanlerch> he is in my TZ
21:25:20 <ryanlerch> will try to get it out today, while you are all sleeping
21:25:31 <stickster> #info stickster just updated Pravin on the list
21:25:34 <ryanlerch> can work with pravins and lbrooker today
21:25:49 <stickster> #action ryanlerch to work with pravin and lbrooker to finish article and publish tonight UTC
21:25:53 <stickster> Cool
21:26:15 <stickster> #idea Pelican post
21:26:16 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10186&preview=true
21:26:47 <stickster> FranciscoD_: Wait, is this already a draft? I thought this was pitched and accepted
21:26:58 <FranciscoD_> uhm
21:26:59 <stickster> meaning it should be in next part of agenda, if so ;-)
21:27:15 * roshi isn't crazy about advertising for github, tbh
21:27:24 <roshi> what about running it on fedorapeople.org?
21:27:29 <roshi> that's how I run my blog
21:27:31 <FranciscoD_> it is already a draft
21:27:40 <FranciscoD_> roshi: can be done
21:27:47 <FranciscoD_> although then it isn't user facing any more
21:27:53 <FranciscoD_> we don't expect our users to have fedorapeople spaces
21:28:24 <FranciscoD_> we could move it to the next part of the agenda as stickster suggested, though
21:28:28 <roshi> it's not a big deal, just a thought
21:28:30 <roshi> sure thing
21:28:32 <stickster> Yeah, I don't think we're here to tell people only to use Fedora properties
21:28:40 <ryanlerch> i'm not too oposed to pointing at gh
21:29:01 <stickster> Let's postpone this for a moment
21:29:04 <roshi> I guess you guys are right; withdrawn :)
21:29:24 <stickster> #info this is really a draft, come back to this later
21:29:41 <stickster> #idea systemd series, part 0
21:29:43 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10202&preview=true
21:30:05 <roshi> +1 - though it could use more of a conclusion I think
21:30:11 <ryanlerch> yeah, it needs a bit more of an intro to github pages and pelican
21:30:21 <roshi> this one is also closer to draft state
21:30:22 <ryanlerch> jus tot set the scene
21:31:09 <stickster> *nod... for systemd part 0... would it make sense, ryanlerch, to maybe separate the sections into booting and after booting?
21:31:33 * decause has used gh-pages on a number of things, but not for pelican
21:32:02 <ryanlerch> stickster: yeah, agreed, this is still a rough rough draft
21:32:15 <stickster> ryanlerch: are you looking for some suggestions for other things?
21:32:24 <ryanlerch> stickster: yes please!
21:32:57 <stickster> I might add a bit on systemd functionality beyond just simple startup, since we hear a lot of pushback on "why does systemd have ___ too"
21:33:26 * roshi is just waiting for systemd-{emacs,vi} to show up :p
21:33:33 <ryanlerch> okies -- will try to work that in there
21:34:15 <stickster> ryanlerch: There's a good bit at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Design on that
21:34:36 <stickster> ryanlerch: We should move this to draft, I'm doing that now
21:34:44 <ryanlerch> stickster: thanks!
21:35:16 <stickster> I put up systemd parts 1-4 pitches, but frankly if we try to assign them all here, we'll run out of time. Can we do that on the list instead?
21:35:27 <ryanlerch> +1 for the list
21:35:43 <roshi> +1 for the list
21:35:59 <decause> +1 list
21:36:27 <mailga> +1 list
21:36:32 <stickster> #agreed assign parts 1-4 through the list
21:36:34 <stickster> #action stickster Drive systemd parts 1-4 assignments through list
21:36:56 <stickster> #topic Unfinished drafts
21:36:57 <FranciscoD_> +1
21:37:00 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=post&orderby=date&order=asc
21:38:14 <stickster> Hm, decause post on Flock wrap-up is back in this queue now
21:38:32 * decause sees the glowing draft notice
21:38:34 <stickster> I thought we #agreed that was too far out of date, nothing written, send to trash last week
21:39:00 <ryanlerch> elcipse one is still on the back-burner -- still chasing a response
21:39:04 <decause> +1, but we could post a pointer to the RH Community post as an article?
21:39:05 <stickster> but that decause was working on the SFD 2015 article this week
21:39:29 * decause has a draft of that article :)
21:39:41 <decause> it is updated, has some pics, blockquotes, and frills
21:39:56 <decause> probably could use a little bit more formatting/polish, but the content is pretty much there
21:40:03 <stickster> I'd be OK with a short wrapper pointing to the RH Community post, never hurts to cross-drive traffic
21:40:04 <decause> /maybe/ I could do a better job with a closing paragraph though
21:40:10 <decause> stickster: nod nod
21:40:14 * decause digs up the link
21:40:22 <stickster> anyone else have thoughts? I'm just zis guy
21:41:31 * roshi has nothing
21:41:40 * decause still digging
21:41:41 <stickster> decause: Note there is also now http://whatcanidoforgnome.org also based on threebean's asknot-ng
21:41:49 <decause> stickster: amaze
21:42:04 <ryanlerch> yeah, short posts linking out are awesome too
21:42:09 <FranciscoD_> it actually all came from mozilla me thinks
21:42:12 <decause> stickster: I smell a break-out post
21:42:20 <decause> spin-off post?
21:42:22 <decause> yeah
21:42:24 <FranciscoD_> hopefully we'll integrate all that into a nice join.fp.o
21:42:50 <stickster> decause: There's a bunch of stuff at the end that looks like you meant to either truncate or flesh out, I assume you'll come back to that?
21:43:02 <decause> stickster: looking now
21:43:49 <decause> stickster: the interviews are the last thing on my draft
21:43:51 <stickster> decause: Hit me up tomorrow on #fedora-mktg when you get a moment and we can look at it
21:43:56 <decause> stickster: kk, can do
21:44:08 * stickster happy to do editing duty
21:44:11 <decause> stickster: thanks much
21:44:20 <stickster> #action stickster serve as editor for SFD 2015 post
21:44:38 <stickster> #action stickster serve as editor for Flock wrapper post as well, while he's at it
21:44:56 <decause> #action decause provide stickster with editorially earned beverages when next you see him
21:45:07 <stickster> #idea Eclipse Mars post
21:45:15 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=9851&preview=true
21:45:23 <decause> #action decause help stickster serve as editor for FLOCK wrapper post
21:45:35 <ryanlerch> this one is still on the backburner -- waiting for a response
21:45:52 <stickster> ryanlerch: OK, I'm going to bust this back to "pitch" status at this point since we don't have anyone actively working on it yet
21:45:53 <decause> stickster: I'm on a train tomorrow to Boston for FSF30, but I should have wifi. Will check your calendar
21:46:03 <ryanlerch> its not super time sensitive -- give me one more week, and if no progress we can can it
21:46:14 <stickster> sure!
21:47:47 <ryanlerch> +1 for back to pithc
21:47:55 <decause> +1 back to pitch
21:48:14 <stickster> k
21:48:19 <stickster> #agreed send back to pitch
21:48:51 <stickster> #info stickster also moved old systemd article back to trash with a note that points to what to do next
21:49:31 <stickster> #info Pelican post!
21:49:32 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10186&preview=true
21:49:49 <decause> #info trash does not mean deleted, it is just another queue in wordpress :)
21:49:58 <stickster> CORRECT
21:50:06 <decause> for those who are not familiar :)
21:50:17 <ryanlerch> +1 -- this one is looking good -- just needs a better explanititive opening
21:50:24 <ryanlerch> and it should be ready imo
21:50:26 <FranciscoD_> it does need some work, yes
21:50:46 <FranciscoD_> should I include the git submodule part, or do you think that's a bit too technical for our audience?
21:50:47 <ryanlerch> nice work jflory7
21:51:20 <stickster> So we need to organize a bit better here. We have a bunch of drafts in flight, and no schedule for review/posting  :-)
21:51:31 <FranciscoD_> it could be done with two separate repos too, without submodules and all that
21:51:33 <stickster> I LOVE the first part -- not so much the second part
21:51:52 <decause> jflory7++
21:52:43 <stickster> So far, none of these drafts is ready for final review. Can we figure ETAs for each?
21:52:54 <stickster> decause: ETA for Flock wrapper, and ETA for SFD 2015?
21:53:00 <stickster> FranciscoD_: ETA for Pelican?
21:53:06 <stickster> ryanlerch: ETA for systemd part 0?
21:53:10 <FranciscoD_> I can finish up the pelican one as soon as I has feedback
21:53:13 <stickster> ryanlerch: oops, and Stellarium
21:53:22 <FranciscoD_> what needs to be improved on basically
21:53:29 <ryanlerch> stickster: stellarium by tuesday
21:53:35 <decause> stickster: I wanted to deliver the draft today (93% there)
21:53:42 <decause> do we wanna publish this week?
21:53:44 <FranciscoD_> (maybe on the list once you folks have had the time to go through it?)
21:53:54 <stickster> decause: OK, let's call it tomorrow, and we'll set up a publishing date for next week
21:53:56 <ryanlerch> systemd might need a better tech review -- i really know not much about systemd
21:53:56 <decause> assuming we do an editorial treatment tomorrow stickster, I think Friday publishing could work
21:53:59 <stickster> FranciscoD_: That sounds like a great idea to me
21:54:09 <decause> stickster: I like that better, yes
21:54:17 <jflory7> stickster: Was that for the Spigot article? If there's some feedback you have for that, I could look at it again and try to improve some parts.
21:54:26 <stickster> decause: Usually we try to publish in the wee hours of the morning EDT, viz. our meeting with the OSDC folks
21:54:35 <ryanlerch> feel free to pitch smaller articles on the list too -- news items and smaller stuff
21:54:37 <stickster> jflory7: No, still coming up to yours, but hang in there!
21:54:45 <stickster> ryanlerch++
21:54:47 <zodbot> stickster: Karma for ryanlerch changed to 9 (for the f22 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:54:48 <decause> osdc++
21:55:05 <jflory7> Okay, had my window closed so I wasn't sure which article was on the table - hahah!
21:55:06 <ryanlerch> we can pad the time between larger form articles with those kinds of posts
21:55:18 <stickster> agreed BIG TIME!!!
21:55:27 <decause> time-check, 5 to the top of the hour
21:55:27 <ryanlerch> stickster: accidental cookie?
21:55:31 <stickster> OK, I think we now have ETA for all :-)
21:55:33 <stickster> thanks decause !
21:55:49 <stickster> #topic Pending Review posts
21:55:51 <stickster> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post&orderby=date&order=asc
21:55:51 * decause should have time-checked sooner
21:56:05 <stickster> Yay, Minecraft article by jflory7 !!
21:56:11 <ryanlerch> pomodoro should be right to go!
21:56:11 <stickster> I finished editing this one earlier today
21:56:20 <stickster> Can we schedule these for early next week?
21:56:34 <ryanlerch> does the minecraft one need a featured image?
21:56:40 <stickster> ryanlerch: yeah
21:56:40 <jflory7> Yes, it does
21:56:43 <jflory7> I can get the Spigot logo
21:56:49 <ryanlerch> okies, will do that today :)
21:57:03 <stickster> #action ryanlerch to create image for Spigot
21:57:03 <jflory7> Vectorized or PNG, point me to who I should provide those too to make a better header image and I can do that!
21:57:15 <stickster> ryanlerch: Thank you also for the adorable pomodoro image, it's better than the one I had in mind
21:57:20 <ryanlerch> jflory7: me please
21:57:29 <ryanlerch> stickster: glad you liked it
21:57:34 <stickster> jflory7: vectorized is probably best, ryanlerch will work magic with it
21:57:45 <ryanlerch> just added an attribution for the BG image to the post then
21:57:57 <ryanlerch> i think the pomodoro one could go out today TBH
21:58:45 <decause> nice!
21:58:51 <stickster> ryanlerch: Why don't we do that -- publish your time
21:59:02 <ryanlerch> stickster: ack
21:59:05 <stickster> Then we could do Spigot on Tuesday your time?
21:59:12 <ryanlerch> awesome!
21:59:27 <ryanlerch> wow -- done with a minute to spare?
21:59:30 <stickster> ryanlerch: What if we did decause Flock article Monday your time?
21:59:44 <stickster> that's a short wrapper after all -- we could have it ready tomorrow
21:59:53 <jflory7> Tuesday for publication sounds good to me.
21:59:58 <ryanlerch> sure!
22:00:13 <decause> nod nod
22:00:34 <stickster> #agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Friday 2015-Oct-02 - Pomodoro; Mon 2015-Oct-05 - Flock wrapper; Tue 2015-Oct-06 - Spigot; more TBD
22:00:45 <stickster> We could probably do another on Thursday if ready
22:01:12 <stickster> OK, whew!!! That was a whirlwind. I gotta blow out of here, OK to end meeting?
22:01:50 <FranciscoD_> end, we're out of time
22:01:54 <FranciscoD_> we can do the rest on the mL
22:02:02 <decause> stickster++
22:02:08 <stickster> THANKS everyone for coming!
22:02:11 <stickster> #endmeeting