<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:00:07
!startmeeting magazine
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:00:09
Meeting started at 2024-05-30 15:00:07 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
15:00:09
The Meeting name is 'magazine'
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:00:28
!hello glb
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:00:29
Gregory Bartholomew (glb)
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:00:37
!hello rlengland
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
15:00:38
Richard England (rlengland) - he / him / his
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:00:50
Are we ready?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:01:08
I am. Anybody else here?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:01:28
Not so far. Do you want to wait?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:02:26
I guess not. I was hoping the announcement yesterday might remind others 🤷
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:02:46
Hope springs eternal. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:03:01
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!topic agenda
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/workflow/
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:03:02
so do grasshoppers.
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!info -- 1/ last week's stats --
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!info -- 2/ articles in progress --
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!info -- 3/ articles to review --
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!info -- 4/ articles to edit --
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!info -- 5/ publishing schedule --
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!info -- 6/ editor of the week --
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:02
!info -- 7/ open floor --
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:03:38
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:03:39
!topic 1/ last week's stats
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:03:48
!info Week of May 20: 34.7K pageviews -- holding steady
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:04:04
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info Looking at the 'in-progress' column, is there something that's been finished? Anything to follow up on with its author?
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!topic 2/ articles in progress
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info 185: Home, sweet systemd-homed (author: richiedaze) (fpca: unsigned) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/185
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info 220: RSS Feed Usage in Fedora and Beyond (author: gbcox) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/220
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info 278: Use TPM2 or FIDO2 to decrypt your Atomic Desktop disk (author: tffhrtp) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/278
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40082&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:14
!info 273: Fedora Linux Flatpak cool apps to try for June (author: x3mboy) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/273
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info 292: Gaming on Fedora: Hack on Earth (author: eonfge) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/292
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40391&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info 072: Introduction to OpenFOAM (author: romangherta) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/72
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=35214&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info 298: DNF 5.2 Test Week 2024-06-05 through 2024-06-11 (author: sumantrom) (fpca: signed) (status: in-progress)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:04:15
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/298
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:05:44
Were you pinging these yesterday? Do you want to go through them today?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:06:20
I don't think that should be necessary.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:06:54
It does make this meeting go quicker when you do all the work beforehand. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:07:04
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:07:04
!info Are there any upcoming test days?
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:07:04
!link https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/QA/
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:07:46
Sumantrom has a card in for DNF. Awaiting his text.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:07:47
I don't see any test days on the calendar. But I'm not sure they are actually recording them there anymore.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:08:04
Should we ping someone about that?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:09:06
Eh, I don't really care. But if you think not having enough advanced notice is causing difficulty with scheduling, we might?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:09:48
Would Sumantrom be a good contact to ask if they are still using that calendar?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:11:05
Yeah, it appears that Sumantrom runs that whole operation. As long as the rate of contributions remains low, I guess he can "get away" with not giving us much forewarning.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:11:50
If we don't have regular meetings where we are reminded to check that calendar, that might be another reason not to bother about it.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:12:26
But it is up to you if and for how long you want to continue holding these weekly meetings. It doesn't matter to me. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:12:32
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:12:34
!info Check the release schedule.
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:12:34
!link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-40/f-40-magazine-tasks.html
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:13:19
Hmm, I need to update that link to point to the Fedora Linux 41 release.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:13:44
Nothing happening until Sept.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:14:03
!action glb to update the release schedule link in `topics.txt`
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:14:07
Well, for the Magazine at least
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:14:20
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
!topic 3/ articles to review
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
!info Looking at the 'review' column, let's decide which articles are good to go. Move each either to the 'to-edit' (finished) column or to the 'in-progress' (needs more work) column and provide feedback.
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
!info 065: Setting Up Development environment with Neovim and Lunarvim (author: human-d3v) (fpca: unknown) (status: review)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/65
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40437&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:14:23
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:15:33
That Neovim article is a long one.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:15:35
#65 is essentially ready except for the code vs preformtted section
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:15:54
It is long but I don't see a place for him to break it.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:16:17
I asked that he change those code blocks but no response so far
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:16:23
OK. What do you mean by "code"?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:16:36
The WP formatting
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:16:36
Oh, I see.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:19:34
Yeah, it is unfortunate that people input the text that way. I think it can lead to corruption of the code/text if the conversion isn't handled properly. I wish would could completely disable that conversion system in WordPress (Markdown to HTML) so people wouldn't make that mistake. Maybe we can, but someone would have to look into it. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:20:40
Enter the snake pit. I think I'm going to make the change as an editing step and ask him to review the doc for a last time.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:20:58
It's been a week with not response
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:21:16
It's been a week with no response
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:21:57
I guess you should double-check the licenses on all the plugins, but I don't anticipate any problems.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:22:06
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
!info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, assign an editor and a cover image creator.
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
!topic 4/ articles to edit
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
!info 059: Commands providing views into the system Part 1 (author: andreashaerter) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40503&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:10
!info 295: A great journey towards Fedora CoreOS and bootc (author: sigulete) (fpca: unsigned) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:11
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/295
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:11
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/a-great-journey-towards-fedora-coreos-and-bootc/
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:22:11
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:22:56
Both the "edit" articles are published.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:23:10
oops not
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:23:21
I guess I should have moved that neovim article to the to-edit column?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:23:27
#59 is
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:23:47
done
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:23:54
And 259 is already edited and scheduled.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:24:21
295?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:24:32
Yes, typo. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:24:42
And 295 is already edited and scheduled.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:25:06
🔹 move 65 to-edit
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:25:06
card 65 moved to 'to-edit'
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:25:37
👍️
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:25:59
So you volunteered for 65 right?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:26:20
yes
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:27:13
I just assigned it
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:27:27
🔹 list
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info 059: Commands providing views into the system Part 1 (author: andreashaerter) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40503&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info 295: A great journey towards Fedora CoreOS and bootc (author: sigulete) (fpca: unsigned) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/295
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/a-great-journey-towards-fedora-coreos-and-bootc/
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info 065: Setting Up Development environment with Neovim and Lunarvim (author: human-d3v) (fpca: unknown) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/65
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:30
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40437&preview=true
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:27:50
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!topic 5/ publishing schedule
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info Looking at the 'to-edit' column, decide the publishing schedule for the upcomming week.
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info If there is not enough content, we might also need to look at the 'in-progress' or even the 'ideas' columns come up with additional content.
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!link https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/boards/articles
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info 059: Commands providing views into the system Part 1 (author: andreashaerter) (fpca: signed) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/59
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40503&preview=true
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info 295: A great journey towards Fedora CoreOS and bootc (author: sigulete) (fpca: unsigned) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/295
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/a-great-journey-towards-fedora-coreos-and-bootc/
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info 065: Setting Up Development environment with Neovim and Lunarvim (author: human-d3v) (fpca: unknown) (status: to-edit)
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:53
!info status: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine-newsroom/issue/65
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:27:54
!info preview: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=40437&preview=true
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:28:27
🔹 show proposed
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:28:30
#proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 🅞 0000-00-00 will edit 65 Setting Up Development environment with Neovim and Lunarvim； 🅦 2024-05-29 rlengland will edit 59 Commands providing views into the system Part 1； 🅕 2024-05-31 glb will edit 295 A great journey towards Fedora CoreOS and bootc；
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:29:01
Oh, we were supposed to agree on a publication date for 65. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:30:36
The DNF article has been requested for 06/03/24 so I will work on 65 for 06/05
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:31:33
OK then, let's try that again.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:31:38
🔹 show proposed
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:31:40
#proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 🅦 2024-05-29 rlengland will edit 59 Commands providing views into the system Part 1； 🅕 2024-05-31 glb will edit 295 A great journey towards Fedora CoreOS and bootc； 🅦 2024-06-05 rlengland will edit 65 Setting Up Development environment with Neovim and Lunarvim；
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:32:27
I'll do the DNF article as well. if you want to include that
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:32:58
Yeah, the DNF article was missed because it was still in the in-progress column and we skipped that one at the start. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:33:15
🔹 move 295 to-edit
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:33:16
card 295 moved to 'to-edit'
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:34:17
🔹 show proposed
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:34:20
#proposed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 🅦 2024-05-29 rlengland will edit 59 Commands providing views into the system Part 1； 🅕 2024-05-31 glb will edit 295 A great journey towards Fedora CoreOS and bootc； 🅜 2024-06-03 rlengland will edit 298 DNF 5.2 Test Week 2024-06-05 through 2024-06-11； 🅦 2024-06-05 rlengland will edit 65 Setting Up Development environment with Neovim and Lunarvim；
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:35:14
Do we have a `+1`? 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:35:24
+1
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:35:30
+1
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:35:33
Sorry, say a chicken
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:35:38
🔹 show agreed
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:35:40
#agreed PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 🅦 2024-05-29 rlengland will edit 59 Commands providing views into the system Part 1🔸； 🅕 2024-05-31 glb will edit 295 A great journey towards Fedora CoreOS and bootc🔸； 🅜 2024-06-03 rlengland will edit 298 DNF 5.2 Test Week 2024-06-05 through 2024-06-11🔸； 🅦 2024-06-05 rlengland will edit 65 Setting Up Development environment with Neovim and Lunarvim🔸； {🔹= forum calendar update succeeded, 🔸= forum calendar update failed }
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:35:45
Sorry, saw a chicken
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:36:14
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:36:14
!topic 6/ editor of the week
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:36:23
I'm not even going to ask. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:36:30
🔹 eotw glb
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:36:30
!info glb will be editor of the week starting 2024-06-02
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:36:34
🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:36:40
🔹 next topic
<@zinebot:fedora.im>
15:36:40
!topic 7/ open floor
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:36:55
2 things:
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:37:46
#297 author suggested using an image from Kubernetes page but I can find no copyright info on it. What is your take on it?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:38:20
Oh. He responded.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:38:31
I'll follow up on it.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:40:27
Should be attempt to pull in those who recently expressed interest but haven't shown up lately? Or do we try to recruit fresh blood?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:40:27
2nd thing. I'm happy to go on as a 2 person team, but I'm a little worried about what happens when we are both unavailable.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:41:23
(a related issue it continuation of our meetings. 2 people can work )asynchronously
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:41:33
(a related issue is continuation of our meetings. 2 people can work )asynchronously
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:42:05
(one of us can't type this morning)
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:42:21
I don't know. If necessary, I can probably do an article a week. I think that would be enough to keep the Magazine "alive" until someone comes along expressing interest in helping out.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:43:00
So could I, but if we both have to be AWOL ?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:43:11
Yeah, the meetings seem somewhat unnecessary when there are only 1.5 people to coordinate between. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:44:09
I don't know about you, but it is pretty rare that I am away for a whole week. I can be offline for a few days while traveling, but even that is pretty uncommon.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:45:19
Well, then let's keep on keeping on. Do we want to plan on having the meeting only as necessary?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:45:39
I'm not going to dismantle the time/meeting channel, however.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:46:10
How about we make the meeting opt-in for now -- if you want to have a meeting, just ask. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:46:48
Sounds like a plan. We can coordinate one-on-one as necessary.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:47:06
And feel free to grab any article we see come by... 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:47:51
Just to be sure, we aren't expecting (at this time) to have a meeting next week?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:48:10
Agreed. If I get to be a pest with question, BTW, let me know.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:48:36
BTW, I think you made a double-entry for the weekly meetings in Fedocal, if you feel up to fixing that at some point. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:49:09
I did?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:49:15
Your questions have never seemed unreasonable to date. 🙂
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:49:17
Agreed. If I get to be a pest with questions, BTW, let me know.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:49:51
I think when I looked at it last, it was showing two entries overlapping.
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:50:02
Let me see if I can grab a screenshot ...
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:50:13
I'll try to sort out Fedocal. I was walking in the dark on much of that.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:50:28
...or a link perhaps?
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:51:02
Make that three instances overlapping.
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:51:22
If you're gonna do it do for effect
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:52:01
Well, I'm not on the email list for those notifications anyway, so it's not like it is spamming me. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:52:08
Just FYI. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:52:16
Well, I guess we are about out of time?
<@rlengland:fedora.im>
15:52:48
Yes. Have a good week and we won't see each other next week. 🙂
<@glb:fedora.im>
15:52:58
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