2024-05-20 13:02:40 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !startmeeting neurofedora - 2024-05-20
2024-05-20 13:02:42 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-05-20 13:02:40 UTC
2024-05-20 13:02:42 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'neurofedora - 2024-05-20'
2024-05-20 13:02:44 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !meetingname NeuroFedora
2024-05-20 13:02:57 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2024/05/20/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-20-may-1300-utc.html
2024-05-20 13:03:18 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Introductions and roll call
2024-05-20 13:03:29 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !hi
2024-05-20 13:03:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sandro . (gui1ty)
2024-05-20 13:03:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !hi
2024-05-20 13:03:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Ankur Sinha (ankursinha) - he / him / his
2024-05-20 13:07:51 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Tasks from last meeting
2024-05-20 13:07:56 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-04-22/neurofedora-2024-04-22.2024-04-22-13.04.html
2024-05-20 13:08:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> oo, no action items from last week
2024-05-20 13:08:08 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> nice
2024-05-20 13:08:15 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info no action items from last meeting
2024-05-20 13:08:21 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open pagure tickets
2024-05-20 13:08:30 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+meeting
2024-05-20 13:09:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> No new tickets here either
2024-05-20 13:09:58 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info No new tickets
2024-05-20 13:10:08 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Packages health check
2024-05-20 13:10:08 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Can `bokeh` and `plotly` move forward now wrt nodejs/npm? WE have open PRs for those.
2024-05-20 13:10:10 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?groups=neuro-sig
2024-05-20 13:10:35 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> not sure, let me check the fesco etc. tix again
2024-05-20 13:10:58 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info FESCo ticket for clarification: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3177
2024-05-20 13:11:02 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> There are updates in [#567](https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/567). Did you see those?
2024-05-20 13:11:13 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info accompanying FPC ticket: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/1343
2024-05-20 13:11:23 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yep, just did the latest 3 too
2024-05-20 13:11:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> > Packages containing JavaScript should make the best effort to regenerate any precompiled/pre-minimized JS wherever possible, as this leads to more maintainable packages. Where this would result in a significant hardship, the bundled pregenerated JS may be shipped. This does not eliminate the requirement to validate licenses of bundled code.
2024-05-20 13:12:12 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> So we just check licenses to make sure the bundled stuff has correct licenses, and that's pretty much it
2024-05-20 13:12:45 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Okay. I can look into updating plotly, then. 
2024-05-20 13:13:31 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Bokeh I'd rather leave to the scientists. 😉
2024-05-20 13:14:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> cool
2024-05-20 13:14:56 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Penguinpee update plotly
2024-05-20 13:15:08 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I can't at myself :(
2024-05-20 13:15:29 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Ankur update bokeh
2024-05-20 13:15:32 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> !action Ankur Sinha (FranciscoD@fedora) (he/him/his) update bokeh
2024-05-20 13:15:46 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> thanks :)
2024-05-20 13:15:54 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> on to package health check then
2024-05-20 13:17:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Luis Bazan: you here?
2024-05-20 13:19:57 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> hrm, even though neuro-sig has admin rights on rangehttpserver, I can't add epel folks..
2024-05-20 13:20:33 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Some actions are restricted to the main admin. 
2024-05-20 13:21:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> weirdly enough, i was able to add myself as an admin, and then add epel folks
2024-05-20 13:21:18 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> so, groups that are admins can add users, but not other groups..
2024-05-20 13:21:40 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Oh? Interesting. Sounds more like a bug than a feature, though.
2024-05-20 13:22:02 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh..
2024-05-20 13:22:52 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Any urgent package issues we need to look at?
2024-05-20 13:23:14 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I wish issues regarding F38 could be filtered out from packager dashboard...
2024-05-20 13:24:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> You can uncheck F38 in the settings bit 
2024-05-20 13:24:34 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Not really. You may have seen the discussion regarding `pydocstyle` being retired in rawhide. Hopefully upstream will sort that one out.
2024-05-20 13:25:11 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> yeh, saw your e-mail---any response from upstream yet?
2024-05-20 13:25:19 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Excellent. The dashboard never seizes to amaze me...
2024-05-20 13:26:54 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> that fell off my radar, unfortunately
2024-05-20 13:28:17 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Now I need a filter for excluded arches... All the Spyder issues are for arches that the package excludes
2024-05-20 13:28:59 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll try to update neuron + brian2 this week
2024-05-20 13:29:05 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> they're well used tools
2024-05-20 13:29:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> how's the pandas dropping i686 bit going?
2024-05-20 13:30:05 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> I've submitted a PR. I'll nudge folks again. But it's ready to be merged into rawhide.
2024-05-20 13:30:31 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> oo, nice
2024-05-20 13:31:03 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Well, koji excluding 32-bit for `noarch` helped a lot.
2024-05-20 13:36:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Cool
2024-05-20 13:36:24 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I just reviewed a few PRs, will keep working on the pending ones too
2024-05-20 13:36:50 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Neuro-sig packages are in good shape. A few FTBFS issues, and a few long standing ones (vxl/bokeh etc.)
2024-05-20 13:37:01 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open package reviews 
2024-05-20 13:37:35 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
2024-05-20 13:38:18 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2254733 -> WIP
2024-05-20 13:38:50 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> It seems `python-sciris` review is stalled. Time and experience permitting I can have a look at the open requests.
2024-05-20 13:39:34 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Yeh, I think Josh is in and out at the moment
2024-05-20 13:39:48 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274394 -> ready for review
2024-05-20 13:40:07 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274557 -> ready for review ( but depends on 2274394 )
2024-05-20 13:40:19 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll see if I can do openctm something this week if no one else gets to it first
2024-05-20 13:40:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Comp Neuro lab image task check
2024-05-20 13:40:44 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
2024-05-20 13:40:59 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info All green ✅
2024-05-20 13:41:10 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Neuroscience query of the week
2024-05-20 13:41:31 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> (now that it's updating again)
2024-05-20 13:43:32 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> there are a few interesting ones
2024-05-20 13:43:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/heart-brain-mental-health
2024-05-20 13:43:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/t-rex-smart-neurons-dinosaur
2024-05-20 13:43:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> one AI related one
2024-05-20 13:43:57 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/artificial-intelligence-digital-ghost-ai
2024-05-20 13:44:36 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> one related to AlphaFold3:
2024-05-20 13:44:40 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://retractionwatch.com/2024/05/14/nature-earns-ire-over-lack-of-code-availability-for-google-deepmind-protein-folding-paper/ 
2024-05-20 13:45:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://www.sciencenews.org/article/new-gel-stops-mice-getting-too-drunk 
2024-05-20 13:46:52 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> This is a review on speech prostheses: 
2024-05-20 13:46:56 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !link https://www.nature.com/articles/s41583-024-00819-9 
2024-05-20 13:47:12 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I think it's open access, but please let me know if it isn't and I can send you the paper)
2024-05-20 13:47:31 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> One last one:
2024-05-20 13:47:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.04540 -> "Is artificial consciousness achievable? Lessons from the human brain"
2024-05-20 13:48:29 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> It seems only the abstract is available for free. But that's probably enough for my level of expertise.
2024-05-20 13:49:17 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> *sigh*
2024-05-20 13:49:28 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> why a review needs to be paywalled is beyond me
2024-05-20 13:49:47 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> but please don't use sci-hub to get around that
2024-05-20 13:49:50 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> (wink)
2024-05-20 13:50:12 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic next meeting
2024-05-20 13:50:20 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> same time, 2 weeks?
2024-05-20 13:50:50 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> sounds good
2024-05-20 13:52:26 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !agreed Next meeting in 2 weeks on 3 June 2024 at 1300 UTC
2024-05-20 13:52:37 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !action Ankur publish blog post announcement etc
2024-05-20 13:52:43 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-05-20 13:52:50 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> We have 8 minutes for anything else :)
2024-05-20 13:53:17 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> my mind is blank
2024-05-20 13:53:55 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> :D
2024-05-20 13:54:01 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'm trying to get back to blogging
2024-05-20 13:54:08 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> writing a weekly update 
2024-05-20 13:54:12 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> oh, that reminds me
2024-05-20 13:54:27 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Please remember to add your feeds to FAS for the new planet to have them
2024-05-20 13:54:45 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> I'll need to add the neurofedora blog there too, but I've got to check if one can have multiple feeds
2024-05-20 13:55:03 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> Oh, and of course
2024-05-20 13:55:08 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info Election voting is on: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-voting-is-now-open/
2024-05-20 13:55:52 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !info New Fedora planet and  necessary steps: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ZR6W63JX6VN5QK6U4POFQH2I5NCM2PP7/
2024-05-20 13:56:10 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> cook, if we have nothing else, I'll close the meeting and we can go stretch for the remaining 5 minutes etc.
2024-05-20 13:56:27 <@ankursinha:fedora.im> !endmeeting