16:01:48 <jednorozec> #startmeeting RELENG (2023-10-03) 16:01:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Oct 3 16:01:48 2023 UTC. 16:01:48 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:01:48 <zodbot> The chair is jednorozec. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:01:48 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:48 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng_(2023-10-03)' 16:01:49 <jednorozec> #meetingname releng 16:01:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 16:01:49 <jednorozec> #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec 16:01:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec nirik pbrobinson phsmoura sharkcz 16:01:49 <jednorozec> #topic init process 16:02:01 * nirik waves 16:02:57 <samyak> 0/ 16:03:10 * jednorozec furiously searches for notes 16:04:29 <jednorozec> forever lost in the cement&lime dust 16:05:16 <nirik> as with so many things. 16:05:21 * samyak sneezes :P 16:05:53 <jednorozec> so 16:05:59 <jednorozec> there are some things 16:06:11 <jednorozec> #topic Fedora 39 is now in final freeze 16:06:54 <jednorozec> stable push and changes done by samyak 16:07:05 <nirik> +1 great! 16:07:42 <jednorozec> and is ot goes some typos in docs. 16:08:10 <nirik> note that infra is not yet frozen. I need to get a bodhi server update in to handle f39 flatpaks... 16:08:16 <jednorozec> but we are getting there. WIth this release we will have all the releng tasks ported to the new thing 16:08:26 <nirik> hurray! 16:08:28 <jednorozec> yep I noticed the PR 16:09:38 <jednorozec> oh and I think we might want to put the mail templates there. Its using templating engine so there should be less copy/paste/sed problems... 16:11:00 <nirik> there? oh, in docs site? 16:11:04 <jednorozec> yep 16:11:10 <samyak> yes 16:11:10 <nirik> yeah, great idea. 16:11:13 <jednorozec> now we link to the repo with template 16:11:45 <samyak> I can take on that and will do it as i update the processes typos 16:11:53 <jednorozec> +1 16:11:56 <nirik> sounds great. 16:12:20 <jednorozec> so next topic 16:12:25 <jednorozec> I dont have my notes but 16:12:29 <jednorozec> #topic PDC&Modularity retirement impact 16:12:30 <samyak> > I need to get a bodhi server update in to handle f39 flatpaks... 16:12:31 <samyak> can you link me the pr as well, curious what's need to be done there 16:12:52 <samyak> ah `>` doesn't interpret as replies in irc 16:13:47 <nirik> https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/5496 and another one... 16:14:08 <jednorozec> and I thibnk this ticket https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11697 16:14:45 <samyak> thanks for the links will check these out, back to topic :D 16:14:57 <jednorozec> yeah 16:14:58 <jednorozec> so 16:15:51 <jednorozec> there was interesting point to the PDC discussion from zbyzsek is his hand I thing 16:15:56 <jednorozec> *think 16:16:27 <jednorozec> once we have retired modularity , concept of EOL for RPM branches does not make much sense 16:16:49 <nirik> yeah... and flatpaks are more limited also 16:16:59 <jednorozec> since we always maintain current releases and retire on rawhide/branched 16:17:21 <jednorozec> this means we can simplify a LOT of scripts 16:17:55 <jednorozec> is there anything like flatpak filecycle page as we have for rpms in fedora? 16:18:22 <jednorozec> hum actually its build fro mrpms 16:18:43 <nirik> yeah, but there's only one active set at a time... and it changes near release. 16:18:57 <nirik> ie, they are f38 based now, and moving to f39 based nowish 16:19:34 <jednorozec> ohh that is even better 16:21:01 <nirik> yep 16:21:41 <jednorozec> Simplifying workflows by removing applications, that is engineering! 16:22:51 <jednorozec> Ok, without the notes I dont really have much more. 16:23:15 <nirik> I had one note: 16:24:00 <nirik> I will be on PTO the 18th->23rd (back on the 24th). So, if we hit early release, right after that... 16:25:22 <jednorozec> enjoy your time off! 16:25:50 <nirik> will try. ;) 16:26:11 <jednorozec> dont take matrix client with you 16:26:15 <jednorozec> we will manage :) 16:27:05 <jednorozec> oh 16:27:08 <jednorozec> this landed today 16:27:11 <samyak> ha 16:27:13 <jednorozec> .releng 11702 16:27:14 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11702: Define "JSON" archive type in prod and stg Koji instances - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11702 16:28:01 <nirik> ok. I'm not sure whats involved, but if it's just config change it should be no problem 16:30:20 <jednorozec> this is the only koji docs there is? https://docs.pagure.org/koji/ 16:30:30 <jednorozec> its always a pain to find something :/ 16:30:42 <jednorozec> even when koji is not that complex project 16:33:01 <nirik> yeah, I grep thru the source often times. 16:33:02 <nirik> :) 16:33:14 <jednorozec> hmmm 16:33:34 <jednorozec> I always tried to search box but it returns release notes mostly.. 16:34:29 <jednorozec> I have question about this one 16:34:33 <jednorozec> .releng 11083 16:34:34 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11083: log4j contains files with unacceptable licenses - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11083 16:34:43 <jednorozec> how do I remove file from lookaside safely? 16:35:08 <nirik> just rm it on pkgs01... 16:35:15 <jednorozec> ok 16:38:14 <jednorozec> checking on some old tickets 16:38:18 <jednorozec> .releng 10369 16:38:19 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #10369: Q: Why do we install epel-release and fedpkg-minimal into every buildroot in Koji? - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10369 16:38:40 <jednorozec> my comment is last but i dont remember doing it 16:38:55 <nirik> yeah, I don't think we ever tested it. 16:42:04 <jednorozec> is this in kojihub od builders in ansible? 16:43:30 <nirik> its in koji... 16:45:11 <nirik> I'm not sure this is true anymore... ie, it might have been fixed? 16:45:53 <nirik> well, fedpkg-minimal is still there on f40-build 16:46:29 <nirik> koji list-groups f40-build 16:47:46 <jednorozec> wel but that is correct 16:47:51 <jednorozec> its in srpm build 16:47:54 <jednorozec> not in build 16:48:34 <jednorozec> in both in epel9 16:48:55 <jednorozec> same for 8 16:49:01 <nirik> so yeah, more looking to see what the current state is I guess 16:49:19 <nirik> we do want epel-release for epel 16:49:51 <jednorozec> ok so I will just remove it from build group in koji and try build pkg in staging 16:50:33 <nirik> sure, testing in stg is good. 16:51:50 <jednorozec> should I just flip the switch in prod and watch? 16:52:04 <jednorozec> its configured like that for fedora... 16:52:52 <nirik> I'd confirm theres no weirdness first, but sure... 16:53:26 <nirik> fedpkg-monimal is needed for epel7 I am pretty sure 16:53:32 <nirik> minimal 16:54:40 <jednorozec> huh, I just noticed its already dark outside 16:55:34 <nirik> not here. ;) 16:56:25 <jednorozec> enjoy the day :) 16:56:40 <jednorozec> If there is nothing more I will close the meeting shortly. 16:57:09 <nirik> +1 16:59:18 <jednorozec> Thanks for your attention. 16:59:22 <jednorozec> #endmeeting