<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:01:46
!startmeeting RELENG (2024-05-21)
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:01:50
Meeting started at 2024-05-21 16:01:46 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:01:51
The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-05-21)'
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:01:55
!meetingname releng
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:02:01
!chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec jnsamyak patrikp
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:02:12
!info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stops
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:02:23
!info agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:02:29
!topic init process
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:02:40
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:02:43
Samyak Jain (jnsamyak) - he / him / his
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:03:10
!info RH Recharge day is scheduled for May 24 on Friday. Many RedHatter(s) will be away on Friday :)
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:03:22
Hello!
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:04:12
!info Fedora 38 is EOL now.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:20
For the init process, kudos we are under 100 on our issue tracker and the EOL is currently is in process now
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:23
for f38
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:04:26
that's me
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:04:58
Alright, let's move to tickets then.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:05:05
!topic Tickets needing attention
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:05:11
!info this is the time where you can bring releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers etc
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:05:21
morning
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:24
there is one more section before the tickets
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:27
isn't it?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:37
i remember adding to the doc, lmcheck
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:05:41
Ah, scheduled actions.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:05:53
yeah :D
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:06:00
nirik: 👋
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:06:46
The only thing I see for scheduled actions is 38 EOL which was already mentioned.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:07:10
nirik: you have something else that you wanted to bring up for this week?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:07:17
apart from the release process
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:07:52
I have one meanwhile
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:07:54
Friday is a Red Hat recharge day. Next monday is a holiday in the US
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:07:55
!releng 12098
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:07:57
**releng #12098** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12098):** Renaming distribution media for Fedora Server**
● **Opened:** a week ago by jwhimpel
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:08:26
So I'm planning to start early for this before next release process starts
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:08:38
and initial thing will be about investigating the bits
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:08:44
yes, it's going to be a lot of work. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:08:50
so we have ample time
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:09:00
to fix and break things
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:09:20
so we need to get the investigation soon, we will discuss more about this in the next meeting
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:09:23
that's all
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:09:42
I'll also mention this as something to consider there:
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:09:45
https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/blob/main/f/general.conf#_39
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:05
!info releng 12098 discussion investigation should be started and we will be discussing this in the next meeting
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:22
thanks, I'll include it in the same doc
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:30
patrikp: that's all we can move to tickets now
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:10:33
thanks
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:10:44
Alright, moving on to tickets. I had one quick thing.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:11:23
The PR for the updated release candidate SOPs can be found here: https://pagure.io/infra-docs-fpo/pull-request/294
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:11:52
awesome. Will try and look today.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:12:32
+1 and once we merge this, we will merge the PR and please close the issue in the releng tracker
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:12:45
I'll give a look my tomorrow :)
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:13:09
Close the issue now? Or after the other things are merged I suppose?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:16
after
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:29
+1 and once we merge this, we will merge the PR and then please close the issue in the releng tracker
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:13:51
!releng 12118
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:13:54
**releng #12118** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12118):**F41 System-Wide Change: LLVM19**
● **Opened:** 3 hours ago by tstellar
● **Last Updated:** an hour ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:31
New change request, the releng involment will be retirement
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:41
which i think can be done by themselves right?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:14:41
yeah, I don't think there's any special needs for this from releng... unless...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:14:50
Or am i missing something obvious
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:15:19
just checking if they wanted a mass rebuild with this, but no, seems not.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:15:26
so yeah, close and say thanks I think.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:15:50
patrikp: can you close the ticket with the comment from above, and with the tag "it's all good"?
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:16:21
Yes.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:16:31
awesome thanks
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:16:34
!releng 12111
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:16:36
**releng #12111** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12111):**Lenovo: F40 official iso for P1 G7 preload**
● **Opened:** 5 days ago by mpearson
● **Last Updated:** 4 hours ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:17:15
So i checked the live-respins are done, but we need to place them in the right place, does the right place implies here: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/;?
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:18:03
oh no i see the live respin for work there
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:18:12
the right place means something else
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:18:14
i guess
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:18:26
F40-WORK-x86_64-LIVE-20240520.iso 2024-05-20 21:21 2.1G
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:30
yes, it's https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins-archive/ and nb apparently already put it there
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:18:45
so, I think we can close this? unless it fails testing or something...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:18:55
super awesome, i think we can close this as well
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:19:00
I'll do that now
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:22:30
!releng 12101
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:22:32
**releng #12101** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12101):**Missing F40 vagrant box**
● **Opened:** a week ago by zlopez
● **Last Updated:** a week ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:22:42
So there is no reply from folks on this :(
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:22:53
Not sure what to do here, and how i can help ;/
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:23:52
We can try pinging in the cloud room I suppose.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:24:05
or on the ticket again
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:24:09
or both
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:24:17
can you point me to the room please nirik ?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:25:07
#cloud:fedoraproject.org
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:25:15
thanks
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:25:34
!action jnsamyak to ping people from the cloud team for releng 12101
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:26:11
other two things i had from my last friday while working/cleaning/fixing from backlog tickets
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:26:15
!releng 7428
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:26:17
**releng #7428** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7428):**Anaconda & bodhi update improvements**
● **Opened:** 6 years ago by m4rtink
● **Last Updated:** 9 hours ago
● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:26:54
i think this can be closed
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:27:20
because there is already that happening in openqa
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:28:41
yeah
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:29:12
I'm fine closing and telling them to re-open if there's something still to be done.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:29:39
yeah, I'll wait for another day if not, I'll do that
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:29:55
!releng 8929
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:29:57
**releng #8929** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8929):**When orphaning packages, keep the original owner as co-maintainer**
● **Opened:** 4 years ago by churchyard
● **Last Updated:** a year ago
● **Assignee:** humaton
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:30:09
So I guess this needs to be groomed again
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:31:08
but to also look for the problem statement, frame it and send a discussion thread on the mailing list if folks are okay or not with that?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:32:14
I'm not convinced we want to do this. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:32:28
The ticket I mean, not the discussion. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:32:47
although...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:32:51
yeah yeah there you go, reading on that it made more sense as well to not do that
<@blackwell:fedora.im>
16:33:03
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:04
Jason Blackwell (blackwell)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:33:07
but let's email it once, and I'll open a poll for a week
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:15
we now have a inactive packager process. So, if we did do this, inactive people would get removed in the end
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:33:18
Jason Blackwell: hi hi
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:33:31
nirik: oh that also
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:33:54
My objection before is that we would have inactive people around forever, but thats not the case anymore.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:35:11
anyhow, +1 to discuss it more
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:35:41
yeah sorry i'm also doing eol work side by side so bit swamped
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:36:01
but yes good point, I'll send an email and we will take it from there
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:36:10
that's all from what i had in mind
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:36:58
we could go one-by-one from old to newer now, or if someone has some tickets to discuss, please go on or we can go to open floor :D
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:38:30
I had a small note to mention...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:38:47
Normally right after a fedora release we update all the builders and koji hubs to the new fedora version.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:08
but this time we need to wait sadly until after 2024-06-30 to do that
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:36
(or possibly before if koji comes up with a option to avoid the problem we have)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:39:53
The issue is that f40 has createrepo_c 1.0.x and it defaults to zstd compression.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:40:03
rhel7/epel7 tools can't read that.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:40:14
So, it would mean we can't build any epel7 packages.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:40:30
so, we need to either wait for rhel7 to eol or get some fix in koji. :)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:41:30
yeah gotto know about that from fab as well for epel9-next similar thing
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:42:01
do we have issue opened in koji about it, is someone already working on a fix?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:18
yes, there is an issue, not sure if they are going to fix it.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:42:44
rhel7 eol is 30/06?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:47
https://pagure.io/koji/issue/3945
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:50
yes.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:42:56
2024-06-30
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:43:16
still before mass rebuild for f41, but not a lot before. ;)
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:43:35
will that affect some of our work? Because the mass rebuild will be on 07/08
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:43:38
yes exactly
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:12
if not, we could eventually wait but let's open an issue so we know when to act fast and issue will be a good place for that
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:25
if not, we could eventually wait but let's open an issue in that case so we know when to act fast and issue will be a good place for that
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:44:32
There is an issue. see above. ;)
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:44:55
I hope they can implement a extra tag value to pass --compatibility to it.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:44:56
yeah 🙈
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:45:07
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but we will see.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:45:23
yeah I'll look more on this tomorrow
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:45:34
thanks for bringing this to notice nirik
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:46:04
no problem, sorry I didn't bring it up sooner. ;(
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:46:22
purging from disk the signed copies of rpms - takes forever :/
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:48:55
yes, that will be a while...
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:49:36
I don't think I had anything else too specific...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:50:27
one thing tho the playbooks can run with it parallel right looking at the script i dont see anything that will affect it??
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:50:47
which playbooks specifically?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:51:03
or there was a list on the sop page I think...
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:51:10
here's the list: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/release_eol/#_fedora_infra_ansible_changes
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:52:10
yeah, you can run those in parallel... the sign one needs ssh reopened.
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:52:16
I can do that one if you like.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:53:36
thanks, please! let me know which are the ones you run with the sysadmin hat on, I'll do the rest it should be the autosign and proxies one right for you?
<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>
16:54:03
sure, can do those
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:55:35
thanks again
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:07
Alright, we only have a couple minutes left, let's move on...
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:09
!topic Discussion / All other Business / Blockers
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:22
We need a chair for next week.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:33
I should be here so I can take it if there are no other volunteers.
<@jnsamyak:matrix.org>
16:56:35
I'll do that
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:45
Sold!
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:56:56
!info next chair May 28 - jnsamyak
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:58:08
I suppose that's it for today then. Thanks for coming everyone!
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:58:15
!info Thank you all for coming.
<@patrikp:matrix.org>
16:58:21
!endmeeting