2024-10-08 16:01:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2024-10-08)
2024-10-08 16:01:47 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-10-08 16:01:45 UTC
2024-10-08 16:01:47 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2024-10-08)'
2024-10-08 16:01:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw.
2024-10-08 16:01:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp
2024-10-08 16:01:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it stops.
2024-10-08 16:01:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng
2024-10-08 16:01:54 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now releng
2024-10-08 16:02:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> How is everyone doing today?
2024-10-08 16:02:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> hello. Sort of here, sort of trying to sort koji packages.
2024-10-08 16:02:14 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Hi.
2024-10-08 16:02:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> apologies in advance here, I'm typing with my new keyboard today
2024-10-08 16:02:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> still setting my hand on it'
2024-10-08 16:02:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: sure thing!
2024-10-08 16:03:02 <@patrikp:matrix.org> You already have it? Very nice.
2024-10-08 16:03:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hehe yes
2024-10-08 16:03:27 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Do you enjoy the clickety clacks?
2024-10-08 16:03:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I can hear it from here! :)
2024-10-08 16:03:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> i got the brown switch it's not as noisy and tactile
2024-10-08 16:03:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> feels like butter with mild noise to me
2024-10-08 16:04:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I wish i could share a picture but can do on slack after this :D
2024-10-08 16:04:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> awesome so work stuff!
2024-10-08 16:04:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Init process.
2024-10-08 16:04:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention?
2024-10-08 16:05:12 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I had one quick thing.
2024-10-08 16:05:19 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> there's a koji update out for a CVE. ;(
2024-10-08 16:05:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> shoot '
2024-10-08 16:05:35 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !releng 12382
2024-10-08 16:05:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 8 hours ago
2024-10-08 16:05:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** patrikp
2024-10-08 16:05:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-10-08 16:05:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a day ago by lenkaseg
2024-10-08 16:05:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12382** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12382):**Please add permission for blocking for epel tags for toddlers**
2024-10-08 16:05:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> oh no'
2024-10-08 16:06:03 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !hi
2024-10-08 16:06:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2024-10-08 16:06:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hello there Carl George ! L:D
2024-10-08 16:06:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> hello there Carl George ! :D
2024-10-08 16:07:22 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so yeah, hub policy adjustment needed here I guess...
2024-10-08 16:09:08 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Alright, that's all I had for init, we can move on I suppose. 👍️
2024-10-08 16:09:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess we had this before (based on the comment) but it somehow got dropped out?
2024-10-08 16:10:14 <@patrikp:matrix.org> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12382#comment-937197
2024-10-08 16:10:14 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Robby Callicotte: Welcome and we just spoke about the comment you posted here:
2024-10-08 16:10:20 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> surely we've blocked epel packages before
2024-10-08 16:10:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yep
2024-10-08 16:10:41 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i'm not aware of anything that would make epel10 different in this regard
2024-10-08 16:10:57 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> hello all
2024-10-08 16:11:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Robby Callicotte: o/
2024-10-08 16:11:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> the block_retired script we used to use may have been using admin perms...
2024-10-08 16:11:47 <@patrikp:matrix.org> It fails for epel9 as well, this is the new toddler that Lenka has been working on.
2024-10-08 16:12:18 <@patrikp:matrix.org> `koji.ActionNotAllowed: policy violation (package_list)`
2024-10-08 16:12:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: is there a way we can check the old script perms, git history?
2024-10-08 16:12:22 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> ahh, that could be the difference, trying to do it with intentionally limited perms
2024-10-08 16:12:52 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> so not an epel10 problem, it's an epel problem in general
2024-10-08 16:13:01 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Yes.
2024-10-08 16:14:14 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i think robby cracked the case on this one with the hub policy.  Robby Callicotte would you be interested in sending a pr to adjust the policy?
2024-10-08 16:14:54 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> I can do that.  I'm just not 100% certain on which vars to reference for epel
2024-10-08 16:15:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we possibly need to make some. ;)
2024-10-08 16:15:33 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i added a few for the zero days in testing override we have active right now
2024-10-08 16:16:23 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i can work with robby outside the meeting on the vars and what direction we want to go with on those, i'm just not familiar with the policy syntax stuff so can only guess on reviewing that part
2024-10-08 16:17:10 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> all the current epel vars were added in this commit https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/c/45f5335356aeb5d667c2325008bb13e7ff278e46?branch=main
2024-10-08 16:17:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> IMHO we should make some like the fedora ones.
2024-10-08 16:17:27 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> definitely
2024-10-08 16:17:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah.
2024-10-08 16:17:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1 to that
2024-10-08 16:18:04 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> y'all know my theme with epel10 changes is "make it work more like fedora"
2024-10-08 16:18:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nice!
2024-10-08 16:20:31 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> let's move on then
2024-10-08 16:20:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week.
2024-10-08 16:20:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week.
2024-10-08 16:21:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-releng-tasks.html
2024-10-08 16:22:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Today it was scheduled 
2024-10-08 16:22:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> for Retire the FTI package
2024-10-08 16:23:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Tue 2024-10-08 - Retire FTI packages in NEW state!
2024-10-08 16:23:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 
2024-10-08 16:23:26 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> which is completed thanks to miro!
2024-10-08 16:23:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and for the next week, the final freeze is gonna kick in
2024-10-08 16:23:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, so... yeah... he has been doing those.
2024-10-08 16:25:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay nothing more from my end to include here, if folks have something feel free to bring in?
2024-10-08 16:25:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Otherwise, we can move to our most liked topic tickets!!!!
2024-10-08 16:27:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info This is the time where you can bring up releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers, etc.
2024-10-08 16:27:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets that need attention.
2024-10-08 16:28:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay  I have some tickets
2024-10-08 16:28:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12299
2024-10-08 16:28:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a month ago by dcavalca
2024-10-08 16:28:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12299** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12299):**Impact check for Changes/FEX**
2024-10-08 16:28:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-10-08 16:28:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-10-08 16:28:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a week ago
2024-10-08 16:28:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think they are opening tickets as per the request coming around, is there anything in particular here to watch for?
2024-10-08 16:29:08 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> This does have some impact in that we need to sort out how to build them, but I guess they did most of the work already in a kiwi pr?
2024-10-08 16:29:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yes they did and now they are looking for image building via composes
2024-10-08 16:29:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> but there is some weird error
2024-10-08 16:30:00 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> which is my follow up question
2024-10-08 16:31:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 1. How does the image is built in koji for specific tags? I know for the rpms, we tag/blocl/unblock those but what in case of images?
2024-10-08 16:31:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 2. The above answer will help me solve this ticket: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12378
2024-10-08 16:31:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12378
2024-10-08 16:31:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 4 days ago by dcavalca
2024-10-08 16:31:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12378** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12378):**Fedora-FEX-Rootfs is missing from koji tags**
2024-10-08 16:31:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2024-10-08 16:31:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2024-10-08 16:31:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 8 hours ago
2024-10-08 16:31:44 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, for koji everything is a package.
2024-10-08 16:32:01 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, it has to be added as a package to work
2024-10-08 16:32:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> so you mean a dist-git entry?
2024-10-08 16:32:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> no
2024-10-08 16:32:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> or koji add-pkg?
2024-10-08 16:33:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yes, in koji. see 'koji list-pkgs --owner releng --tag=f42' and you can see that all the images we make are 'packages' owned by 'releng'
2024-10-08 16:33:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and TIL thanks
2024-10-08 16:33:42 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> although oddly I see some non image ones, we should figure out what happened there.
2024-10-08 16:34:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, 'koji add-pkg f42 whatever' just manually needs doing at new image creation time
2024-10-08 16:34:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> already did that
2024-10-08 16:34:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we can check in next compose 
2024-10-08 16:34:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I don't see it there.
2024-10-08 16:35:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> koji list-pkgs --owner releng --tag f42 | grep -i fex
2024-10-08 16:35:49 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 👀
2024-10-08 16:36:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: okay the command is still running may be that's why
2024-10-08 16:36:47 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> "everything is a file" except designed by rpm packagers
2024-10-08 16:36:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ah, there it is.
2024-10-08 16:36:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> should be there now
2024-10-08 16:37:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yep, that should fix it...
2024-10-08 16:37:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> is that also needed for f41? or was that a f42 change?
2024-10-08 16:37:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ahh good stuff - thisis f42 change
2024-10-08 16:37:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> ahh good stuff - this is f42 change
2024-10-08 16:38:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> we can move on
2024-10-08 16:38:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nme goes to add a comment
2024-10-08 16:41:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> and if folks have anything to bring in this topic otherwise we will move on to our next topic chair and then open floor
2024-10-08 16:42:04 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I can chair next week.
2024-10-08 16:42:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> awesome nothing in the tags
2024-10-08 16:43:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Choose next chair.
2024-10-08 16:43:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info next chair Oct 15 - patrikp
2024-10-08 16:43:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Discussion / Any other business.
2024-10-08 16:43:40 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Carl George: shoot!
2024-10-08 16:44:12 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/pull-request/2270
2024-10-08 16:44:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, that looks fine.
2024-10-08 16:44:55 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> whoops, i guess that link will be in the wrong topic now
2024-10-08 16:45:17 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> if you like, i can modify the pr to just remove it in prod, rather than doing staging first
2024-10-08 16:45:57 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, just removing it entirely is fine I think.
2024-10-08 16:46:16 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> alright, i'll make that tweak, and rebase to the latest HEAD
2024-10-08 16:48:02 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> done, should be ready to merge and deploy
2024-10-08 16:48:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> good stuff
2024-10-08 16:48:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> btw Carl George I'm loving the experience so far on my new keyboard I need to adjust my hand on it but the quality feels super premium
2024-10-08 16:49:45 <@patrikp:matrix.org> You owe us a workstation pic in Slack!
2024-10-08 16:49:47 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> did you end up with the rk or the keychron
2024-10-08 16:50:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the keychron and yes just waiting to clean my desk hehe 
2024-10-08 16:50:17 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> didnt took a mic tho and got a XM4 headset
2024-10-08 16:50:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> instead
2024-10-08 16:52:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay if we have nothing else, we can close this off]
2024-10-08 16:52:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay if we have nothing else, we can close this off?
2024-10-08 16:53:32 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Workstations are an interesting topic in general (within reason) but some internet people take it way over the line.
2024-10-08 16:54:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> the aesthetic workstations pictures that i keep seeing, I think I'll never be able to  work on those
2024-10-08 16:54:57 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I like the raw ones. Show it how it is. Sometimes I wonder what the desk a person spends most of their day behind looks like.
2024-10-08 16:55:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> +1
2024-10-08 16:55:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Alrighty nice icebreaker discussion, hopping off on my bed now, see you all in the next one!
2024-10-08 16:56:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming!
2024-10-08 16:56:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting