2025-07-21 15:02:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2025-07-21)

2025-07-21 15:02:29 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-07-21 15:02:27 UTC
2025-07-21 15:02:29 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2025-07-21)'
2025-07-21 15:02:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2025-07-21)
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2025-07-21 15:02:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng
2025-07-21 15:02:48 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now releng
2025-07-21 15:02:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw.
2025-07-21 15:02:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it STOPS.
2025-07-21 15:02:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp amedvede
2025-07-21 15:02:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Init process.
2025-07-21 15:03:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention?
2025-07-21 15:03:07 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2025-07-21 15:03:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello Everyone!
2025-07-21 15:03:40 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Hello.
2025-07-21 15:03:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Just Fying, the eols and cleanups were sorted rectified and done last weekend so those are done both for 39 & 40 (two less tickets!)
2025-07-21 15:03:56 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I'll just quickly mention that I'll be on PTO all of mass branching week.
2025-07-21 15:05:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I fixed the torrent checksum whitelist issue as well, so the user will be unblocked there as well
2025-07-21 15:05:10 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I wish there was a way around it but there is a social thing I'm involved in and the dates are fixed.
2025-07-21 15:05:41 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> And, this is Mass Rebuild Week! \0/
2025-07-21 15:07:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> that's it for the init from me
2025-07-21 15:07:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> anything else that folks want to bring up?
2025-07-21 15:07:16 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Sounds like good news.
2025-07-21 15:07:45 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Nothing from me.
2025-07-21 15:08:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> cool, I'll move to the next topic in 2 mins :D
2025-07-21 15:08:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I have something for the end/open floor/whatever...
2025-07-21 15:08:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> well, or with any mass rebuild topic I guess
2025-07-21 15:08:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do you want to discuss it now with release process topic, we start doing tickets and loose track of time
2025-07-21 15:09:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week.
2025-07-21 15:09:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week.
2025-07-21 15:09:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-releng-tasks.html
2025-07-21 15:09:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Mass Rebuild: RPMs	Wed 2025-07-23
2025-07-21 15:09:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Shooooot nirik 
2025-07-21 15:10:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, basically... I think things should be fine for the mass rebuild, but I am going to try today/tomorrow and add more builders (from the machines from the old datacenter)...
2025-07-21 15:10:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but I think in recent cycles, the bottleneck has become how fast we can submit the commits/builds, the builders keep up pretty well
2025-07-21 15:10:56 <@patrikp:matrix.org> There are machines that are still provisioned and ready for use there?
2025-07-21 15:11:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> The newest of the machines that werre in iad2 (old datacenter) were shipped to the new one. So, they are there, I just need to get them installed/provisioned/added to koji...
2025-07-21 15:11:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> need to check with gcc is in btw
2025-07-21 15:11:58 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and I hit some issues friday I need to try and sort out.
2025-07-21 15:12:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> There was a status from tools folks in another ticket.
2025-07-21 15:12:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12798
2025-07-21 15:12:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Sure I'll check it out, would you be kind to put a comment on ticket once the provision is done?
2025-07-21 15:12:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12833
2025-07-21 15:13:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2025-07-21 15:13:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 31 minutes ago
2025-07-21 15:13:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12833** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12833):** Fedora 43 Mass Rebuild Tracker**
2025-07-21 15:13:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-07-21 15:13:00 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 32 minutes ago by jnsamyak
2025-07-21 15:13:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12798#comment-978946
2025-07-21 15:13:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> here^
2025-07-21 15:14:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> got it
2025-07-21 15:15:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Anything else in case of release procesS?
2025-07-21 15:15:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thats all I had
2025-07-21 15:16:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> nirik: I know usually someone files a request but what we be the right time to create rawhide+2 key?
2025-07-21 15:16:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh yeah, thats soon on the schedule isn't it?
2025-07-21 15:17:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Tue 2025-07-29	
2025-07-21 15:17:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> YES!
2025-07-21 15:17:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Another thing to do next week
2025-07-21 15:17:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Alright moving on
2025-07-21 15:17:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets that need attention.
2025-07-21 15:17:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info This is the time where you can bring up releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers, etc.
2025-07-21 15:18:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/releng/issues
2025-07-21 15:18:27 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> If folks have blockers or tickets or some issues to discuss please use this forium
2025-07-21 15:18:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, reminds me... I should resetup patrikp's sigul stuff... now that I hopefully know how to do it...
2025-07-21 15:18:54 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Nothing from my side, I must just do it, there are a few laying around that need to be cleaned up.
2025-07-21 15:19:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12832
2025-07-21 15:19:16 <@patrikp:matrix.org> How did you figure it out, actually?
2025-07-21 15:19:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** an hour ago by lecris
2025-07-21 15:19:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12832** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12832):**pybind11 PR cannot be merged**
2025-07-21 15:19:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-07-21 15:19:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-07-21 15:19:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** an hour ago
2025-07-21 15:19:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay this came in today I am not sure how can i help them from admin power? 
2025-07-21 15:19:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> 🫠
2025-07-21 15:20:01 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I think we have run into this in the past. Let me try and look for a ticket...
2025-07-21 15:20:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I had to figure it out as I made a new CA in the new datacenter... but if we could schedule some time sometime I could setup your account and we could record the steps to update the documentation?
2025-07-21 15:21:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so, on this pr thing...
2025-07-21 15:21:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> The fork is stuck read-only... see https://src.fedoraproject.org/fork/lecris/rpms/pybind11
2025-07-21 15:22:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> yeah
2025-07-21 15:22:43 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> This can be fixed by going to pkgs01 as root and running: pagure-admin read-only --user lecris rpms/pybind11 --ro false
2025-07-21 15:22:55 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> geez thank you!
2025-07-21 15:22:59 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think after that it should be rebaseable
2025-07-21 15:23:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am not sure why they sometimes get in this state.
2025-07-21 15:23:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> why does race conditions keeps happenin tho
2025-07-21 15:23:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> weird
2025-07-21 15:23:30 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Please if that resolves the issue but in as many details as possible into the comment before closing it so that we may find it easily in the future.
2025-07-21 15:23:31 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> some process doesn't finish/make it rw
2025-07-21 15:24:14 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> jnsamyak: can you do that command/update the ticket, etc?
2025-07-21 15:24:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> sure 
2025-07-21 15:24:48 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I'll make sure to add details before closing
2025-07-21 15:27:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 12028
2025-07-21 15:27:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12028** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12028):**Package retirements are broken in rawhide**
2025-07-21 15:27:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a year ago by gotmax23
2025-07-21 15:27:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a year ago
2025-07-21 15:27:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-07-21 15:27:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** kevin
2025-07-21 15:27:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> this was fixed a while back right? retirements are working fine now?
2025-07-21 15:28:14 <@patrikp:matrix.org> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12812
2025-07-21 15:28:14 <@patrikp:matrix.org> There is one ticket currently open about an incorrect retirement but I haven't looked deeper into it yet.
2025-07-21 15:28:24 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Let's see what's going on...
2025-07-21 15:29:18 <@patrikp:matrix.org> dead.package is there. ✅️
2025-07-21 15:29:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'll close 12028...
2025-07-21 15:29:53 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Go ahead and I think I know how to fix 12812.
2025-07-21 15:30:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh...
2025-07-21 15:30:15 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 12210
2025-07-21 15:30:15 <@patrikp:matrix.org> It just needs to be manually blocked in Koji and orphaned in dist-git I think.
2025-07-21 15:30:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 5 months ago
2025-07-21 15:30:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a year ago by petersen
2025-07-21 15:30:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-07-21 15:30:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12210** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12210):**a few mass rebuild bumps failed to git push - script should retry or error**
2025-07-21 15:30:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2025-07-21 15:30:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> This one might be good to look at before wed?
2025-07-21 15:30:39 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> looks like there was a pr and merged so close?
2025-07-21 15:31:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> patrikp: huh, but that should have been automatic. ;(
2025-07-21 15:32:00 <@patrikp:matrix.org> It should have but the retirement happened a year ago, it's not recent, just the ticket is.
2025-07-21 15:32:18 <@patrikp:matrix.org> So it's probably from the time when it was broken but is not anymore.
2025-07-21 15:32:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> ahhhhh... that would indeed explain it.
2025-07-21 15:33:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> okay closing this for now
2025-07-21 15:33:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I merged it
2025-07-21 15:33:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> before
2025-07-21 15:34:18 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I would rather be Kevin's cat than be me. What a life.
2025-07-21 15:35:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> lol
2025-07-21 15:36:17 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12616
2025-07-21 15:36:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-07-21 15:36:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 months ago
2025-07-21 15:36:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12616** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12616):**F43 system-wide change: RPM 6.0**
2025-07-21 15:36:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-07-21 15:36:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 5 months ago by pmatilai
2025-07-21 15:36:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I wanted to check - if this will be a blocker for rebuid
2025-07-21 15:39:51 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Wiki was last updated in April. I say we ping pmatilai and ask for status.
2025-07-21 15:40:49 <@patrikp:matrix.org> If THEY aren't pinging US then perhaps there are some delays.
2025-07-21 15:41:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> some of it might need releng intervention but yeah
2025-07-21 15:46:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think they still have it not doing that check yet... but yes, checking would be good
2025-07-21 15:46:33 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, right, we are still building v4 packages, so we are fine
2025-07-21 15:46:51 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> sure 
2025-07-21 15:46:58 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> But that's all from me
2025-07-21 15:47:42 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Next chair and open floor?
2025-07-21 15:47:50 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Choose next chair.
2025-07-21 15:48:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Any volunteers? If not I can do it
2025-07-21 15:48:13 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I can take it.
2025-07-21 15:48:23 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> Oh, one more I see that could be mass rebuild related...
2025-07-21 15:48:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Next chair July 28th: patrikp 
2025-07-21 15:48:56 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !releng 12629
2025-07-21 15:48:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 4 months ago by zbyszek
2025-07-21 15:48:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 months ago
2025-07-21 15:48:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** jnsamyak
2025-07-21 15:48:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-07-21 15:48:57 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12629** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12629):**Mass retirement of packages with uninitialized rawhide branch**
2025-07-21 15:49:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> would be nice to clean these up before mass rebuild.
2025-07-21 15:50:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Interesting - might have fall of my radar, I remember i had a script that ran forever
2025-07-21 15:50:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> lol
2025-07-21 15:50:29 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Out of curiosity, why are we still building v4 packages? I just had a brief look at what even means and if it's the version of the package format... And there is already v6... Then that's at least 2 versions behind? On the "cutting edge" distro? I'm missing some piece.
2025-07-21 15:50:33 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Discussion / Any other business / Open floor.
2025-07-21 15:51:19 <@patrikp:matrix.org> I feel like I'm missing so much context when reading that ticket.
2025-07-21 15:51:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> patrikp: v6 just came out... and I think v5 might have been skipped/scrapped? I don't recall the history, but we could look
2025-07-21 15:52:01 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Ah, if it was scrapped and the next one just came out then that makes perfect sense. Thanks.
2025-07-21 15:52:19 <@patrikp:matrix.org> So in F44 we will be on V6 sounds like?
2025-07-21 15:53:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think thats the plan...
2025-07-21 15:53:42 <@patrikp:matrix.org> !info patrikp will be on PTO on the week of August 11 - 15 (mass branching week).
2025-07-21 15:54:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I'm likely going to take some pto days soon... but not sure exactly which yet.
2025-07-21 15:54:23 <@patrikp:matrix.org> What are your plans for it? Travel?
2025-07-21 15:54:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> likely catch up on things around the house... but perhaps some day trips. The coast is nice. ;)
2025-07-21 15:55:41 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> oh, and I will be out at flossy the 31st, 1st, 2nd
2025-07-21 15:56:44 <@patrikp:matrix.org> Hopefully we get to a point where you enjoying well earned PTO doesn't give me anxiety.
2025-07-21 15:57:32 <@patrikp:matrix.org> That's all from me, have a pleasant rest of the day everyone.
2025-07-21 15:58:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming!
2025-07-21 15:58:19 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting