2025-09-29 15:03:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !startmeeting RELENG (2025-09-29)
2025-09-29 15:03:34 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-09-29 15:03:32 UTC
2025-09-29 15:03:34 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'RELENG (2025-09-29)'
2025-09-29 15:03:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !meetingname releng
2025-09-29 15:03:56 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now releng
2025-09-29 15:04:05 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !chair nirik jnsamyak patrikp amedvede
2025-09-29 15:04:10 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2025-09-29 15:04:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Meeting is 60 minutes MAX. At the end of 60, it STOPS.
2025-09-29 15:04:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Agenda is at https://hackmd.io/vm6biLBcTYKtkQUH5kQkmw.
2025-09-29 15:04:54 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Init process.
2025-09-29 15:05:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Do we have anything for the init? Any blockers/tasks/issues/requests/features that need releng intervention?
2025-09-29 15:05:11 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello folks!
2025-09-29 15:05:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> How’s everyone doing?
2025-09-29 15:06:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's early monday... too soon to tell. ;)
2025-09-29 15:06:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hahaha happy Monday 
2025-09-29 15:06:37 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Nothing from me either for now it’s been quite day me like u
2025-09-29 15:06:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Nothing from me either for now it’s been quite day me likey
2025-09-29 15:07:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> So let’s go on for the next topic ?
2025-09-29 15:07:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sure
2025-09-29 15:07:22 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Scheduled actions coming up in the next week.
2025-09-29 15:07:43 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Here we list/discuss anything about items that are due to be done in the next week.
2025-09-29 15:07:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-43/f-43-releng-tasks.html
2025-09-29 15:08:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> next tuesday is start of final freeze
2025-09-29 15:08:13 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Fedora 43 final freeze is starting next Tuesday 
2025-09-29 15:08:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Beat you to it 
2025-09-29 15:08:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I see no blockers 
2025-09-29 15:08:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> For now 
2025-09-29 15:09:16 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Anything else from the release as well?
2025-09-29 15:10:18 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !me hey everyone
2025-09-29 15:10:34 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> hey Anton
2025-09-29 15:10:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello!
2025-09-29 15:11:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Let’s move on then 
2025-09-29 15:11:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Tickets that need attention.
2025-09-29 15:12:01 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info This is the time where you can bring up releng tickets to discuss if there are blockers, etc.
2025-09-29 15:12:15 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/releng/issues
2025-09-29 15:12:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> perhaps we should look at some of the oldest tickets and see if we can close them/do something with them?
2025-09-29 15:13:00 <@amedvede:fedora.im> good idea, we can start directly from the bottom
2025-09-29 15:13:03 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> (unless folks have newer ones to discuss of course)
2025-09-29 15:13:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes, we should idea. I had one thing that restructuring thing is going on track. I believe and suggested deadline is on Wednesday Anton and Patrick both working on it. PR work progress. So let’s see how far we can go with that one start done. We will be unblocked from the Migration, and we will move forward with the forgejo thing as required.
2025-09-29 15:14:27 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> yeah, I was meaning to look some more at the reorg stuff, but it's... a lot and I haven't had too much time.
2025-09-29 15:14:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I trust you all to do the right things. ;) But if you have any specific questions for me, happy to try and answer.
2025-09-29 15:15:00 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I have nothing new to discuss. We can look at the backlogs, and perhaps we can groom some of the tickets also so that we can do at upcoming sprint as part of planned work for release engineering scrum wise, I have initiated and launched a new sprint called sprint-1 there is a board for it 
2025-09-29 15:15:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> is the idea to land that this week before freeze?
2025-09-29 15:15:38 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yeah doubling checking mostly everything and sending questions your way if required it’s all covered, trying to do the best ;)
2025-09-29 15:16:34 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes the prs innn, migration is scheduled to happen before freeze, but ideally, if there is a delay in the work, I want to do Migration after, but the PR should get in before the freeze happens
2025-09-29 15:17:09 <@amedvede:fedora.im> @nirik if you would like to see how reorg is going I think the best place is the sheet with whole scripts https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tf4Pf8Xxaq2KZiQnMuQnWCnseKqffAAo4ifV22AFJZw/edit?gid=0#gid=0
2025-09-29 15:17:11 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> do note that we MUST fix any paths in ansible when we change this... there's specific scripts called from there that will need adjusting to the new setup
2025-09-29 15:17:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> cool. thanks
2025-09-29 15:17:35 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes that is already being worked on
2025-09-29 15:17:52 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> also note that some scripts refer to other scripts. :)
2025-09-29 15:18:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I’ll check in once again before merging it 
2025-09-29 15:18:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes we have a list of common repository that releng touches and will try to update them parallel. We update the paths.
2025-09-29 15:19:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> and also docs. ;)
2025-09-29 15:19:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> so many parts, but things will be much nicer when it's done
2025-09-29 15:19:29 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yes already in the list to change tooo
2025-09-29 15:19:49 <@humaton:fedora.im> well nicer but too many parts as well
2025-09-29 15:20:12 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Hello jednorozec !
2025-09-29 15:20:38 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 👋
2025-09-29 15:20:41 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> anything else for this or let’s get to backlog and groom some work?
2025-09-29 15:21:00 <@amedvede:fedora.im> ✌️
2025-09-29 15:21:05 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I had one minor thing, but it can also be open floor.
2025-09-29 15:21:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Shoot! Then we will go for backlogs 
2025-09-29 15:21:28 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://pagure.io/infra-docs-fpo/pull-request/419
2025-09-29 15:21:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we need to add a flag to the openh264 repo generation... to make a seperate debug/ tree
2025-09-29 15:22:09 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Good stuff
2025-09-29 15:23:40 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> thats it.
2025-09-29 15:24:02 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Merged 
2025-09-29 15:25:03 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info https://pagure.io/releng/issues?status=Open&order_key=date_created&order=asc
2025-09-29 15:25:24 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> This is from last opened 
2025-09-29 15:25:25 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> lets step into the wayback machine! :)
2025-09-29 15:25:53 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 12032
2025-09-29 15:25:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** a year ago
2025-09-29 15:25:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-09-29 15:25:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** a year ago by pbrobinson
2025-09-29 15:25:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-09-29 15:25:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #12032** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12032):**The aarch64 minimal synced to the wrong location for releases**
2025-09-29 15:26:07 <@amedvede:fedora.im> maybe its better to start from last modified?
2025-09-29 15:26:35 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> could be.
2025-09-29 15:26:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think we finished 12032? can be closed? but we should check
2025-09-29 15:27:25 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I don’t see any new issues for lat two releases let’s close?
2025-09-29 15:27:42 <@amedvede:fedora.im> +1 from me
2025-09-29 15:28:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I’ll review once and close it 
2025-09-29 15:28:36 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Anton Medvedev: do you want to take the last modified issue and pick the last issue nd put it here?
2025-09-29 15:29:52 <@amedvede:fedora.im> I mean, it's good point to start from the issue the didn't had our attention for longest time
2025-09-29 15:30:07 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !releng 10102
2025-09-29 15:30:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #10102** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10102):**Need help determining size of server install DVD when pungi generates rpm repos with recommends**
2025-09-29 15:30:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-09-29 15:30:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-09-29 15:30:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 years ago
2025-09-29 15:30:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 4 years ago by ngompa
2025-09-29 15:31:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Still required?
2025-09-29 15:31:55 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess I'd say... no responses for a while, something someone else could do, close
2025-09-29 15:32:12 <@amedvede:fedora.im> agree
2025-09-29 15:32:58 <@amedvede:fedora.im> i think if issue is without response for more than 1 year it can be closed and if requester still need it, he can open a new one
2025-09-29 15:33:10 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay I’ll make it as it’s all good for now 
2025-09-29 15:33:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Next?
2025-09-29 15:33:44 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !releng 10278
2025-09-29 15:33:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #10278** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10278):**Fedora release EOL badges tasks lost in migration to new docs**
2025-09-29 15:33:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-09-29 15:33:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 4 years ago
2025-09-29 15:33:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 4 years ago by troycurtisjr
2025-09-29 15:33:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-09-29 15:34:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> the badge makes no sense anymore. ;)
2025-09-29 15:35:02 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess we could file a badges ticket to retire it and close this one?
2025-09-29 15:35:32 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Badges :) yeah need to open there instead here, I’ll do that and close if someone else wants to ask!
2025-09-29 15:36:02 <@amedvede:fedora.im> last time I looked on this issue i couldn't find a badge he is talking about, so close from my perspective xd
2025-09-29 15:36:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it it no longer possible to get this.
2025-09-29 15:36:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yeah
2025-09-29 15:36:28 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> That’s true
2025-09-29 15:36:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it was from the old CVS days... if you commit to a EOL branch
2025-09-29 15:36:46 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Good old days :)
2025-09-29 15:36:54 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> anyhow, it shouldn't be a thing. Badges should be for things we want to encourage people to do.
2025-09-29 15:37:16 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> committing to a eol branch isn't something we should want people to do (and now our hooks completely prevent it)
2025-09-29 15:37:42 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Yeah makes sense 
2025-09-29 15:37:50 <@amedvede:fedora.im> true
2025-09-29 15:37:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I closed it as can’t fix
2025-09-29 15:38:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Next?
2025-09-29 15:38:33 <@amedvede:fedora.im> I would say 3 old issues through releng weekly its a good pace, we can stop here or continue, up on you
2025-09-29 15:39:06 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I’m looking for some tickets to groom we just closed the not required tickets 
2025-09-29 15:41:45 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 10724
2025-09-29 15:41:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-09-29 15:41:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #10724** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10724):**Package rubygem-ruby_parser is retired in dist git, but PDC still see it as active**
2025-09-29 15:41:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-09-29 15:41:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 3 years ago by zlopez
2025-09-29 15:41:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago
2025-09-29 15:42:07 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> With pdc retire let’s close this as well?
2025-09-29 15:42:45 <@amedvede:fedora.im> yeah, issue title should not be a problem anymore😅
2025-09-29 15:43:44 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I think i see a ticket to groom
2025-09-29 15:43:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !releng 11233
2025-09-29 15:43:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Assignee:** Not Assigned
2025-09-29 15:43:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Last Updated:** 2 years ago
2025-09-29 15:43:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> ● **Opened:** 2 years ago by yselkowitz
2025-09-29 15:43:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> 
2025-09-29 15:43:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> **releng #11233** (https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11233):**Automation of request-repos in flatpaks namespace**
2025-09-29 15:43:59 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Thoughts?
2025-09-29 15:45:23 <@amedvede:fedora.im> !me looking on it
2025-09-29 15:49:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> This is a though one...
2025-09-29 15:50:04 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I guess for rust we could use those rules... but for flatpak... I guess just group membership...
2025-09-29 15:50:40 <@amedvede:fedora.im> so the person wants us to adjust request-repo method so it won't need vallidation from us on processing? if so we need to define exact rules, and with such it won't be a problem to implement
2025-09-29 15:50:56 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> There is a membership that is already set up?
2025-09-29 15:51:12 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> right, we need to be careful tho... and not make it something that someone could misuse.
2025-09-29 15:51:52 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> I’ll look into it and groom the tickets perhaps?
2025-09-29 15:52:23 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> We are in final bits let’s move to next topic 
2025-09-29 15:52:36 <@amedvede:fedora.im> sounds good
2025-09-29 15:52:47 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> we should probibly get approval from fesco for new rules... but I guess it's borderline
2025-09-29 15:53:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Sure I’ll do the due diligence 
2025-09-29 15:53:08 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Choose next chair.
2025-09-29 15:53:21 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Any volunteers?
2025-09-29 15:53:26 <@amedvede:fedora.im> I can chair next week
2025-09-29 15:53:47 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Next chair October 6th Anton Medvedev 
2025-09-29 15:54:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !topic Discussion / Any other business / Open floor.
2025-09-29 15:54:18 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Anything for open floor?
2025-09-29 15:56:04 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Okay I’ll close in next two minutes if we don’t have anything else
2025-09-29 15:56:06 <@amedvede:fedora.im> nothing from me, I'm starting  to feel bad again so I would like to go to bed now
2025-09-29 15:56:14 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> Take care 
2025-09-29 15:56:20 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !info Thank you all for coming!
2025-09-29 15:56:22 <@amedvede:fedora.im> thanks for chairing today
2025-09-29 15:56:30 <@jnsamyak:matrix.org> !endmeeting